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difference between xymon and nagios

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list Akshar Bhosale · Sun, 5 Sep 2010 22:09:10 +0530 ·
Hi,
we want to know the difference between xymon and nagios monitoring tool and
is it that xymon is preffered over nagois ? if so why?
list Josh Luthman · Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:34:31 -0400 ·
Different requirements.  Preferences.
quoted from Akshar Bhosale

On Sep 5, 2010 5:50 PM, "akshar bhosale" <user-ef04175556bd@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Hi,
we want to know the difference between xymon and nagios monitoring tool and
is it that xymon is preffered over nagois ? if so why?
list Vernon Everett · Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:39:16 +0800 ·
For me, the biggest advantage of Xymon over Nagios, is the graphs.
They "just work" straight out of the box, and it's really easy to implement
new ones.
Nagios might tell you a disk is full, but cannot tell you how it got full.
Did it fill up in the last half hour, or has it taken the last 3 months to
hit the threshold?
Your reaction to these 2 very similar scenarios would be very different.

Another big advantage is the amount of additional information you can supply
on screen.

Nagios is a good tool, I will not knock it, and in the absense of Xymon, it
would probably be the next best thing for me.
However, Xymon can do more, so it is my monitoring tool of choice.

YMMV.

Regards
    Vernon
quoted from Akshar Bhosale


On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:39 AM, akshar bhosale <user-ef04175556bd@xymon.invalid>wrote:
Hi,
we want to know the difference between xymon and nagios monitoring tool and
is it that xymon is preffered over nagois ? if so why?

list Ralph Mitchell · Mon, 6 Sep 2010 02:25:08 -0400 ·
I like the graphs too, especially when trying to sell management on hardware
upgrades.  I also like that it's really easy to forward reports from a
remote client to the server.  It seems like you have to jump through some
hoops to get Nagios to do that.

On the other hand, at my present employer there are externally imposed
requirements that mean I can only use things that come with the SuSE
distributions, which pretty much means Nagios.  I eventually gave up on
Nagios NSCA when it stopped working for no apparent reason (ports were open,
connections would open and close, but no data was sent).  I replaced it with
a script that uses curl to post to a php script on a webserver, so now I
don't even need to justify opening ports for new installations...  I imagine
the same method would work for Xymon, if anyone's interested...  :)

Ralph Mitchell
quoted from Vernon Everett


On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Vernon Everett <user-b3f8dacb72c8@xymon.invalid>wrote:
For me, the biggest advantage of Xymon over Nagios, is the graphs.
They "just work" straight out of the box, and it's really easy to implement
new ones.
Nagios might tell you a disk is full, but cannot tell you how it got full.
Did it fill up in the last half hour, or has it taken the last 3 months to
hit the threshold?
Your reaction to these 2 very similar scenarios would be very different.

Another big advantage is the amount of additional information you can
supply on screen.

Nagios is a good tool, I will not knock it, and in the absense of Xymon, it
would probably be the next best thing for me.
However, Xymon can do more, so it is my monitoring tool of choice.

YMMV.

Regards
    Vernon


On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:39 AM, akshar bhosale <user-ef04175556bd@xymon.invalid>wrote:
Hi,
we want to know the difference between xymon and nagios monitoring tool
and is it that xymon is preffered over nagois ? if so why?

list Neil Franken · Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:33:09 +0200 ·
Xymon =Ease of use, lightweight and easy to customize. Some of the other
tools are a little bit overkill. Nagios is a second choice for me. 
quoted from Ralph Mitchell

 
From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 06 September 2010 08:25 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [xymon] difference between xymon and nagios

 
I like the graphs too, especially when trying to sell management on
hardware upgrades.  I also like that it's really easy to forward reports
from a remote client to the server.  It seems like you have to jump
through some hoops to get Nagios to do that.

 
On the other hand, at my present employer there are externally imposed
requirements that mean I can only use things that come with the SuSE
distributions, which pretty much means Nagios.  I eventually gave up on
Nagios NSCA when it stopped working for no apparent reason (ports were
open, connections would open and close, but no data was sent).  I
replaced it with a script that uses curl to post to a php script on a
webserver, so now I don't even need to justify opening ports for new
installations...  I imagine the same method would work for Xymon, if
anyone's interested...  :)

 
Ralph Mitchell

 
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Vernon Everett
<user-b3f8dacb72c8@xymon.invalid> wrote:

For me, the biggest advantage of Xymon over Nagios, is the graphs.
They "just work" straight out of the box, and it's really easy to
implement new ones.
Nagios might tell you a disk is full, but cannot tell you how it got
full.
Did it fill up in the last half hour, or has it taken the last 3 months
to hit the threshold?
Your reaction to these 2 very similar scenarios would be very different.

Another big advantage is the amount of additional information you can
supply on screen.

Nagios is a good tool, I will not knock it, and in the absense of Xymon,
it would probably be the next best thing for me.
However, Xymon can do more, so it is my monitoring tool of choice.

YMMV.

Regards
    Vernon


On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:39 AM, akshar bhosale
<user-ef04175556bd@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Hi,
we want to know the difference between xymon and nagios monitoring tool
and is it that xymon is preffered over nagois ? if so why?
list Martin Ward · Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:20:27 +0100 ·
From a technical perspective the Xymon client checks are executed by the
client server, that is to say the client computer decides when it is
going to run each of the tests, it runs them and sends the data back to
the Xymon server.

 
With Nagios it is the server that decides, it contacts the client and
gets it to execute a remote program via NRPE then retrieves the result.
If you have a lot of clients then you are going to have a huge number of
processes on the Nagios server executing remote programs on all of the
clients.  This is both a benefit and a problem for Nagios. +: All the
configs are on the server. -: These config files can get very
complicated.

 
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quoted from Akshar Bhosale

 
From: akshar bhosale [mailto:user-ef04175556bd@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 05 September 2010 17:39
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: [xymon] difference between xymon and nagios

 
Hi,
we want to know the difference between xymon and nagios monitoring tool
and is it that xymon is preffered over nagois ? if so why?


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list Tom Moore · Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:28:10 +0000 ·
Agreed here as well.  We were using Nagios+Cacti+nrpe+snmp to monitor/graph.. but that was much more complicated than a simple switch to Xymon, and we get the same results :)
quoted from Neil Franken


From: Neil Franken [mailto:user-507e5171be69@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 3:33 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: RE: [xymon] difference between xymon and nagios

Xymon =Ease of use, lightweight and easy to customize. Some of the other tools are a little bit overkill. Nagios is a second choice for me.

From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 06 September 2010 08:25 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [xymon] difference between xymon and nagios

I like the graphs too, especially when trying to sell management on hardware upgrades.  I also like that it's really easy to forward reports from a remote client to the server.  It seems like you have to jump through some hoops to get Nagios to do that.

On the other hand, at my present employer there are externally imposed requirements that mean I can only use things that come with the SuSE distributions, which pretty much means Nagios.  I eventually gave up on Nagios NSCA when it stopped working for no apparent reason (ports were open, connections would open and close, but no data was sent).  I replaced it with a script that uses curl to post to a php script on a webserver, so now I don't even need to justify opening ports for new installations...  I imagine the same method would work for Xymon, if anyone's interested...  :)

Ralph Mitchell

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Vernon Everett <user-b3f8dacb72c8@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-b3f8dacb72c8@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
For me, the biggest advantage of Xymon over Nagios, is the graphs.
They "just work" straight out of the box, and it's really easy to implement new ones.
Nagios might tell you a disk is full, but cannot tell you how it got full.
Did it fill up in the last half hour, or has it taken the last 3 months to hit the threshold?
Your reaction to these 2 very similar scenarios would be very different.

Another big advantage is the amount of additional information you can supply on screen.

Nagios is a good tool, I will not knock it, and in the absense of Xymon, it would probably be the next best thing for me.
However, Xymon can do more, so it is my monitoring tool of choice.

YMMV.

Regards
    Vernon

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:39 AM, akshar bhosale <user-ef04175556bd@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ef04175556bd@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
Hi,
we want to know the difference between xymon and nagios monitoring tool and is it that xymon is preffered over nagois ? if so why?