Hobbit upgrade process question
list Shawn Maschino
Hi all. I was running Hobbit 4.1.2 on a Red Hat Linux server, and
tried to upgrade to 4.2.0. Since I didn't see any documentation on
doing the upgrade, I stopped Hobbit and Apache, backed up my current
configs and files, and ran the install process for 4.2.0 to be placed in
the same location 4.1.2 was running.
Everything seemed to work, at the bottom of the screen I now see
"Hobbit Monitor 4.2.0 <http://hobbitmon.sourceforge.net/>; " as the
version, but none of the new menus or options are appearing. For
instance under "Views" I still have "NK View", not critical systems
view. NK View still goes to the bbnk.html page, not the new cgi
scripts. The cgi files are in the cgi-bin directory, just no menu items
or links to them. If I directly go to them they seem to work fine.
Does anyone know where I may have gone wrong on this? Thanks.
Shawn
list Francesco Duranti
Check the RELEASENOTES file in the hobbit source tree. There are some manual modification to config file to do to upgrade from 4.1.2 and are all explained in that file. Francesco From: Maschino, Shawn (GE Indust, Plastics) [mailto:user-518eb92a87d3@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 7:27 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Hobbit upgrade process question
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Hi all. I was running Hobbit 4.1.2 on a Red Hat Linux server, and tried to upgrade to 4.2.0. Since I didn't see any documentation on doing the upgrade, I stopped Hobbit and Apache, backed up my current configs and files, and ran the install process for 4.2.0 to be placed in the same location 4.1.2 was running. Everything seemed to work, at the bottom of the screen I now see "Hobbit Monitor 4.2.0 <http://hobbitmon.sourceforge.net/>; " as the version, but none of the new menus or options are appearing. For instance under "Views" I still have "NK View", not critical systems view. NK View still goes to the bbnk.html page, not the new cgi scripts. The cgi files are in the cgi-bin directory, just no menu items or links to them. If I directly go to them they seem to work fine. Does anyone know where I may have gone wrong on this? Thanks. Shawn
list Greg L Hubbard
Hobbit works very hard to honor any changes that you have made. I think you will find that this type of upgrade is more trouble than it is worth. (I did this first myself and had the same problems). Another approach to consider is this: a) restore your old directories, make sure the old hobbit is working b) stop the old hobbit c) rename the server and client directories. make a backup copy of the data directory d) install new Hobbit as a new install, and start it up. e) move the files over that you KNOW need to move over, like bb-hosts, etc. f) manually diff/merge your other files in server/etc with the new system. g) update any web pages you might have changed As you work through the changes, you will end up with the new features and any customizations you have made that are still relevant. It only took me a couple of hours, and I had added a lot of custom graphs and changed the "skins" a little. GLH From: Maschino, Shawn (GE Indust, Plastics) [mailto:user-518eb92a87d3@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:27 PM
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To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Hobbit upgrade process question Hi all. I was running Hobbit 4.1.2 on a Red Hat Linux server, and tried to upgrade to 4.2.0. Since I didn't see any documentation on doing the upgrade, I stopped Hobbit and Apache, backed up my current configs and files, and ran the install process for 4.2.0 to be placed in the same location 4.1.2 was running. Everything seemed to work, at the bottom of the screen I now see "Hobbit Monitor 4.2.0 <http://hobbitmon.sourceforge.net/>; " as the version, but none of the new menus or options are appearing. For instance under "Views" I still have "NK View", not critical systems view. NK View still goes to the bbnk.html page, not the new cgi scripts. The cgi files are in the cgi-bin directory, just no menu items or links to them. If I directly go to them they seem to work fine. Does anyone know where I may have gone wrong on this? Thanks. Shawn
list Shawn Maschino
Thanks for the tips guys (Greg and Francesco).
One other thing I've noticed is when clicking on a status column to
get the details (calling bb-hostsvc.sh) I now get a "Status not
available" returned every time. Info and trends work, but none of the
tests like conn or disk. Any ideas?
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From: Hubbard, Greg L [mailto:user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:42 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit upgrade process question Hobbit works very hard to honor any changes that you have made. I think you will find that this type of upgrade is more trouble than it is worth. (I did this first myself and had the same problems). Another approach to consider is this: a) restore your old directories, make sure the old hobbit is working b) stop the old hobbit c) rename the server and client directories. make a backup copy of the data directory d) install new Hobbit as a new install, and start it up. e) move the files over that you KNOW need to move over, like bb-hosts, etc. f) manually diff/merge your other files in server/etc with the new system. g) update any web pages you might have changed As you work through the changes, you will end up with the new features and any customizations you have made that are still relevant. It only took me a couple of hours, and I had added a lot of custom graphs and changed the "skins" a little. GLH From: Maschino, Shawn (GE Indust, Plastics) [mailto:user-518eb92a87d3@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:27 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Hobbit upgrade process question Hi all. I was running Hobbit 4.1.2 on a Red Hat Linux server, and tried to upgrade to 4.2.0. Since I didn't see any documentation on doing the upgrade, I stopped Hobbit and Apache, backed up my current configs and files, and ran the install process for 4.2.0 to be placed in the same location 4.1.2 was running. Everything seemed to work, at the bottom of the screen I now see "Hobbit Monitor 4.2.0 <http://hobbitmon.sourceforge.net/>; " as the version, but none of the new menus or options are appearing. For instance under "Views" I still have "NK View", not critical systems view. NK View still goes to the bbnk.html page, not the new cgi scripts. The cgi files are in the cgi-bin directory, just no menu items or links to them. If I directly go to them they seem to work fine. Does anyone know where I may have gone wrong on this? Thanks. Shawn
list Greg L Hubbard
One has to wonder what has gone on in the Web server CGI directories. I believe I went and deleted everything Hobbit from mine before I re-installed from scratch. From: Maschino, Shawn (GE Indust, Plastics) [mailto:user-518eb92a87d3@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:43 PM
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To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit upgrade process question Thanks for the tips guys (Greg and Francesco). One other thing I've noticed is when clicking on a status column to get the details (calling bb-hostsvc.sh) I now get a "Status not available" returned every time. Info and trends work, but none of the tests like conn or disk. Any ideas? From: Hubbard, Greg L [mailto:user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:42 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit upgrade process question Hobbit works very hard to honor any changes that you have made. I think you will find that this type of upgrade is more trouble than it is worth. (I did this first myself and had the same problems). Another approach to consider is this: a) restore your old directories, make sure the old hobbit is working b) stop the old hobbit c) rename the server and client directories. make a backup copy of the data directory d) install new Hobbit as a new install, and start it up. e) move the files over that you KNOW need to move over, like bb-hosts, etc. f) manually diff/merge your other files in server/etc with the new system. g) update any web pages you might have changed As you work through the changes, you will end up with the new features and any customizations you have made that are still relevant. It only took me a couple of hours, and I had added a lot of custom graphs and changed the "skins" a little. GLH From: Maschino, Shawn (GE Indust, Plastics) [mailto:user-518eb92a87d3@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:27 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Hobbit upgrade process question Hi all. I was running Hobbit 4.1.2 on a Red Hat Linux server, and tried to upgrade to 4.2.0. Since I didn't see any documentation on doing the upgrade, I stopped Hobbit and Apache, backed up my current configs and files, and ran the install process for 4.2.0 to be placed in the same location 4.1.2 was running. Everything seemed to work, at the bottom of the screen I now see "Hobbit Monitor 4.2.0 <http://hobbitmon.sourceforge.net/>; " as the version, but none of the new menus or options are appearing. For instance under "Views" I still have "NK View", not critical systems view. NK View still goes to the bbnk.html page, not the new cgi scripts. The cgi files are in the cgi-bin directory, just no menu items or links to them. If I directly go to them they seem to work fine. Does anyone know where I may have gone wrong on this? Thanks. Shawn