Distro
list Neil Franken
Hi Guys I tested XyMon on Ubuntu 7.1 and it was not too difficult to install. We are now ready to deploy XyMon into production so I am looking at which Distribution XyMon is the easiest to install and maintain. Getting things to run on Ubuntu was not a major issue but if there is a easier distro I would like to use it for now. Any suggestions? Regards Neil
list Buchan Milne
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On Tuesday 03 February 2009 13:19:24 Neil Franken wrote:
Hi Guys I tested XyMon on Ubuntu 7.1 and it was not too difficult to install. We are now ready to deploy XyMon into production so I am looking at which Distribution XyMon is the easiest to install and maintain. Getting things to run on Ubuntu was not a major issue but if there is a easier distro I would like to use it for now.
IMHO, what distribution is easiest to install on is not the best factor to base your decision for a long-term server. Either way, most distros are quite easy to get Hobbit or Xymon running on, e.g. Mandriva ships Hobbit (soon Xymon), and I buid the packages for RHEL/Centos as well: http://staff.telkomsa.net/packages/ (e.g.: http://staff.telkomsa.net/packages/rhel5/hobbit/i386/ http://staff.telkomsa.net/packages/rhel5/hobbit/noarch/ ) I guess you mean Ubuntu 7.10. I can't remember which are "LTS" releases, but 7.10 is probably already quite a fair way into the support lifetime of the distro (compared to say, RHEL5/CentOS5 or Debian). Regards, Buchan
list Michael Osburn
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On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 18:29 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 13:19:24 Neil Franken wrote:Hi Guys I tested XyMon on Ubuntu 7.1 and it was not too difficult to install. We are now ready to deploy XyMon into production so I am looking at which Distribution XyMon is the easiest to install and maintain. Getting things to run on Ubuntu was not a major issue but if there is a easier distro I would like to use it for now.IMHO, what distribution is easiest to install on is not the best factor to base your decision for a long-term server. Either way, most distros are quite easy to get Hobbit or Xymon running on, e.g. Mandriva ships Hobbit (soon Xymon), and I buid the packages for RHEL/Centos as well: http://staff.telkomsa.net/packages/ (e.g.: http://staff.telkomsa.net/packages/rhel5/hobbit/i386/ http://staff.telkomsa.net/packages/rhel5/hobbit/noarch/ ) I guess you mean Ubuntu 7.10. I can't remember which are "LTS" releases, but 7.10 is probably already quite a fair way into the support lifetime of the distro (compared to say, RHEL5/CentOS5 or Debian).
If you want LTS, go with Ubuntu 8.04. This has a 5 year support promise.
Regards, Buchan
list Malcolm Hunter
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I tested XyMon on Ubuntu 7.1 and it was not too difficult to install. We are now ready to deploy XyMon into production so I am looking at which Distribution XyMon is the easiest to install and maintain. Getting things to run on Ubuntu was not a major issue but if there is a easier distro I would like to use it for now. Any suggestions?
From a support point of view, I would recommend any distro that has Xymon / Hobbit available as a package. I notice on CentOS that at least one of the packages isn't available unless you add rpmforge repository. HTH, Malcolm -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01
list Jason Hand
Ubuntu uses Apt which has Hobbit as a package. I have not seen the more recent versions yet nor the name change to Xymon in Apt or Aptitude though. I'm sure it will be available at some point. -Jason
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From: Malcolm Hunter [mailto:user-b3e590ffeb6d@xymon.invalid] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:20 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Distro
I tested XyMon on Ubuntu 7.1 and it was not too difficult to install. We are now ready to deploy XyMon into production so I am looking at which Distribution XyMon is the easiest to install and maintain. Getting things to run on Ubuntu was not a major issue but if there is a easier distro I would like to use it for now. Any suggestions?
From a support point of view, I would recommend any distro that has Xymon / Hobbit available as a package. I notice on CentOS that at least one of the packages isn't available unless you add rpmforge repository. HTH, Malcolm -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01
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list Carl Inglis
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I tested XyMon on Ubuntu 7.1 and it was not too difficult to install. We are now ready to deploy XyMon into production so I am looking at which Distribution XyMon is the easiest to install and maintain. Getting things to run on Ubuntu was not a major issue but if there is a easier distro I would like to use it for now. Any suggestions?
Personally I've done two installations on Slackware and had no problem. Carl
list Tom Kauffman
I've been running on SUSE for years; currently on 64-bit SLES 10 SP2. And I much prefer installing something like hobbit/XyMon from source. Tom
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From: Neil Franken [mailto:user-1689acfc5a3b@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:19 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Distro
Hi Guys
I tested XyMon on Ubuntu 7.1 and it was not too difficult to install. We are now ready to deploy XyMon into production so I am looking at which Distribution XyMon is the easiest to install and maintain. Getting things to run on Ubuntu was not a major issue but if there is a easier distro I would like to use it for now.
Any suggestions?
Regards
Neil
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list Joe Sloan
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Neil Franken wrote:
Hi Guys I tested XyMon on Ubuntu 7.1 and it was not too difficult to install. We are now ready to deploy XyMon into production so I am looking at which Distribution XyMon is the easiest to install and maintain. Getting things to run on Ubuntu was not a major issue but if there is a easier distro I would like to use it for now.
Ubuntu did not make a release in January 07 (7.1?) - are you thinking of the October 07 release (7.10)? Compiling from source on any distro is not too hard, however we like to use the package management system rather than having unmanaged tarballs all over the place. That said, I've used hobbit packages on suse (and had to tweak several things to get it working due to some weird little redhat-isms in the build) and I've used the deb packages from the ubuntu repo, which worked nicely out of the box. Joe
list Neil Franken
Hi All Sorry I meant Ubuntu 7.10, having a bad finger day. Ok so from what I gather there is official Ubuntu packages for XyMon. I have not been able to track these but have seen packages for Debian. I know Ubuntu is debian based so I guess I could use those as well. I would preffer to have packages not tarballs as I feel that it is easier to manage. I did install Debian 4 yesterday but since we had no internet here due to a line problem it was quite difficult to get started. Anyway I will consider all that you guys have said. Thanks for the input. Regards Neil
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From: Joe Sloan [mailto:user-b1d2c84d244b@xymon.invalid] Sent: 03 February 2009 11:59 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Distro
Neil Franken wrote:Hi Guys I tested XyMon on Ubuntu 7.1 and it was not too difficult to install. We are now ready to deploy XyMon into production so I am looking at which Distribution XyMon is the easiest to install and maintain. Getting things to run on Ubuntu was not a major issue but if there is a easier distro I would like to use it for now.
Ubuntu did not make a release in January 07 (7.1?) - are you thinking of the October 07 release (7.10)? Compiling from source on any distro is not too hard, however we like to use the package management system rather than having unmanaged tarballs all over the place. That said, I've used hobbit packages on suse (and had to tweak several things to get it working due to some weird little redhat-isms in the build) and I've used the deb packages from the ubuntu repo, which worked nicely out of the box. Joe
list Jason Hand
Ubuntu uses the same package system as Debian, APT or Aptitude for a more graphical system. Hobbit is available as an APT package. -Jason
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From: Neil Franken [mailto:user-1689acfc5a3b@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:48 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Distro
Hi All
Sorry I meant Ubuntu 7.10, having a bad finger day. Ok so from what I gather
there is official Ubuntu packages for XyMon. I have not been able to track
these but have seen packages for Debian. I know Ubuntu is debian based so I
guess I could use those as well. I would preffer to have packages not
tarballs as I feel that it is easier to manage. I did install Debian 4
yesterday but since we had no internet here due to a line problem it was
quite difficult to get started.
Anyway I will consider all that you guys have said.
Thanks for the input.
Regards
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Sloan [mailto:user-b1d2c84d244b@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 03 February 2009 11:59 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Distro
Neil Franken wrote:Hi Guys I tested XyMon on Ubuntu 7.1 and it was not too difficult to install. We are now ready to deploy XyMon into production so I am looking at which Distribution XyMon is the easiest to install and maintain. Getting things to run on Ubuntu was not a major issue but if there is a easier distro I would like to use it for now.
Ubuntu did not make a release in January 07 (7.1?) - are you thinking of the October 07 release (7.10)? Compiling from source on any distro is not too hard, however we like to use the package management system rather than having unmanaged tarballs all over the place. That said, I've used hobbit packages on suse (and had to tweak several things to get it working due to some weird little redhat-isms in the build) and I've used the deb packages from the ubuntu repo, which worked nicely out of the box. Joe
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list Christoph Berg
Re: Jason Hand 2009-02-04 <2233F757E4474656A18AB27075665847 at jasonsdell>
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Ubuntu uses the same package system as Debian, APT or Aptitude for a more graphical system. Hobbit is available as an APT package.
It's even the same package. Ubuntu basically just takes Debian packages and releases them at different points than we do. Fwiw, Xymon 4.2.2 packages for Debian are on the way, awaiting approval by the Debian ftp-masters. Christoph -- user-92157dbc91bf@xymon.invalid | http://www.df7cb.de/