NooB questions - Status not Available

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list Paul McIlrath · Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:29:05 -0700 ·

Hi,
Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company. Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386. The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd. The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available". However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view menus and look at the tests historically they are all there and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef | grep hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running. I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look. I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a snapshot report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the Hobbit server. If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the other foor and support this forum. Paul
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list Thomas Kern · Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:36:17 -0400 ·

I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data. 
/Thomas Kern
/XXX-XXX-XXXX

▸ quoted from Paul McIlrath

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Hi,
 Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.  Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.  The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.  The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".  However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view menus and look at the tests historically they are all there and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are growing and receiving data from the clients.  A ps -ef | grep hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.  I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.   I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that makes me suspect that as well.  If I try to run a snapshot report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the Hobbit server.  If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the other foor and support this forum.  Paul
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list Paul McIlrath · Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:57:23 -0700 ·

Thanks for your response Thomas, 

unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!

Paul

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM 
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

▸ quoted from Thomas Kern

	
	
	I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
	is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
	'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
	
	/Thomas Kern
	/XXX-XXX-XXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Hi,

Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which
is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.

Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.

The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put
some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.

The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests
icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts
tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available". 
However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view
menus and look at the tests historically they are all there
and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts
in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
growing and receiving data from the clients.  A ps -ef | grep
hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.

I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of
Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.
  I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that
makes me suspect that as well.  If I try to run a snapshot
report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the
Hobbit server.

If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know
and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little
patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to
do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the
other foor and support this forum.

Paul

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list Galen Johnson · Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:41:27 -0400 ·

I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly.  Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related.

=G=

▸ quoted from Paul McIlrath


-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid; user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Thanks for your response Thomas, 
 
unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
 
Paul

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM 
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	
	I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
	is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
	'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
	
	/Thomas Kern
	/XXX-XXX-XXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Hi,

Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which
is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.

Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.

The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put
some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.

The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests
icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts
tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available". 
However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view
menus and look at the tests historically they are all there
and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts
in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
growing and receiving data from the clients.  A ps -ef | grep
hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.

I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of
Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.
  I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that
makes me suspect that as well.  If I try to run a snapshot
report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the
Hobbit server.

If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know
and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little
patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to
do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the
other foor and support this forum.

Paul

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list Paul McIlrath · Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:06:10 -0700 ·

Galen, 
 
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
 

Alias /hobbit/  "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
</Directory>
<VirtualHost *>
DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
ServerName hobbit
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
allow from all
Options +Indexes
</Directory>
</VirtualHost>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
    AllowOverride None
    Options ExecCGI Includes
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
</Directory>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
    AllowOverride None
    Options ExecCGI Includes
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
    # Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept.
    # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
    # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
    AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
    AuthType Basic
    AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
    Require valid-user
</Directory>

 
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2 reports, as stated below.   Now that you mention it though, its not requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a possibility?
 
Paul

▸ quoted from Galen Johnson

 
 
	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM 
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	
	I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly.  Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related.
	
	=G=
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid; user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	Thanks for your response Thomas,
	
	unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
	
	Paul
	
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Cc:
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	       
	       
	        I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
	        is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
	        'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
	       
	        /Thomas Kern
	        /XXX-XXX-XXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Hi,

Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which
is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.

Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.

The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put
some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.

The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests
icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts
tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view
menus and look at the tests historically they are all there
and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts
in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
growing and receiving data from the clients.  A ps -ef | grep
hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.

I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of
Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.
  I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that
makes me suspect that as well.  If I try to run a snapshot
report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the
Hobbit server.

If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know
and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little
patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to
do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the
other foor and support this forum.

Paul

user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid

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list Galen Johnson · Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:47:47 -0400 ·

Most likely.  There are some permission changes that have to happen in the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man pages.

▸ quoted from Paul McIlrath


=G=

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Galen, 
 
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
 

Alias /hobbit/  "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
</Directory>
<VirtualHost *>
DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
ServerName hobbit
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
allow from all
Options +Indexes
</Directory>
</VirtualHost>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
    AllowOverride None
    Options ExecCGI Includes
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
</Directory>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
    AllowOverride None
    Options ExecCGI Includes
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
    # Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept.
    # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
    # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
    AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
    AuthType Basic
    AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
    Require valid-user
</Directory>

 
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2 reports, as stated below.   Now that you mention it though, its not requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a possibility?
 
Paul
 
 
	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM 
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	
	I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly.  Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related.
	
	=G=
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid; user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	Thanks for your response Thomas,
	
	unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
	
	Paul
	
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Cc:
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	       
	       
	        I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
	        is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
	        'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
	       
	        /Thomas Kern
	        /XXX-XXX-XXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Hi,

Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which
is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.

Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.

The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put
some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.

The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests
icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts
tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view
menus and look at the tests historically they are all there
and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts
in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
growing and receiving data from the clients.  A ps -ef | grep
hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.

I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of
Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.
  I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that
makes me suspect that as well.  If I try to run a snapshot
report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the
Hobbit server.

If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know
and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little
patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to
do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the
other foor and support this forum.

Paul

user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid

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list Tod Hansmann · Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:54:01 -0600 ·

"Status Unavailable" is a result given by the CGI script running.  I
usually get this on new nodes when there is no data in the data
directory (usually /home/hobbit/data, at least on my servers).  You
might want to check the permissions on these directories and make sure
there are files getting written to the this directory (or more
specifically, the subfolders in it).  

I don't know why you have your directories all over the place.  Our
entire installation of hobbit on all three servers is in /home/hobbit,
with subdirectories going out from there.  Makes things easier to secure
and easier to manage.  Did you divide those up on purpose?

Regardless, check on the permissions of the directory that you have
setup for data compilation.  These would be the $BBVAR and the variables
in the same section as it in your hobbitserver.cfg

Tod Hansmann
Network Engineer

▸ quoted from Galen Johnson

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:48 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Most likely.  There are some permission changes that have to happen in
the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user
apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up
hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man
pages.

=G=

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Galen, 
 
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to
the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working
however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the
following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
 

Alias /hobbit/  "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
</Directory>
<VirtualHost *>
DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
ServerName hobbit
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
allow from all
Options +Indexes
</Directory>
</VirtualHost>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
    AllowOverride None
    Options ExecCGI Includes
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
</Directory>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
    AllowOverride None
    Options ExecCGI Includes
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
    # Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept.
    # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
    # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd
/etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
    AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
    AuthType Basic
    AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
    Require valid-user
</Directory>

 
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with
the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2
reports, as stated below.   Now that you mention it though, its not
requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing
because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a
possibility?
 
Paul
 
 
	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM 
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	
	I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache
httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include
directive or pasted in directly.  Look in there and see if there is
anything hobbit related.
	
	=G=
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid; user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	Thanks for your response Thomas,
	
	unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless
of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something
simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
	
	Paul
	
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Cc:
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
Available
	       
	       
	        I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen
occasionally. I think it
	        is just the hobbit server being busy or the network
slow. When I
	        'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
	       
	        /Thomas Kern
	        /XXX-XXX-XXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not

Available

Hi,

Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother
background which
is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at
my company.

Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.

The installations all went smoothly, no error
messages, I put
some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.

The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the
tests
icons, instead of getting the current status for that
hosts
tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the
view
menus and look at the tests historically they are all
there
and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for
the hosts
in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
growing and receiving data from the clients.  A ps -ef

| grep

hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and
running.

I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure
of
Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where
to look.
  I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in
reports that
makes me suspect that as well.  If I try to run a
snapshot
report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
directory", and the config report says it cannot
contact the
Hobbit server.

If this is the wrong place for this post, please let
me know
and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a
little
patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will
promise to
do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is
on the
other foor and support this forum.

Paul

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list Paul McIlrath · Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:28:21 -0700 ·

Tod, 
 
Thank you for your response...this seems to be the right track. On your advice I checked the /hobbit/data directory and it is indeed empty, owned by hobbit.hobbit with 755 permissions. 
 
I do not know why the rpm installer I used spread the directories around....the main install at first glance seems to be in /usr/libexec/hobbit which contains the cgi-bin, cgi-secure and server directories. A closer look in the /usr/libexec/hobbit/server directory however shows the soft links:
 
etc  -> /etc/hobbit
tmp -> /var/lib/hobbit/tmp
web -> /etc/hobbit/web
www -> /var/lib/hobbit/www
 
the bin and ext directories are not soft linked and reside in /usr/libexec/hobbit/server.
 
I guess I made a bad assumption that this was just how every hobbit installation was set up. When I ran BB, I used to install everything to /bb/bb19c.
 
Perhaps the best question now would be, is it worth the time to try and patch up this installation to make everything work? Or would it be more productive to scrap in and use a binary installer and make/make install to build it on the environment it will be running on?
 
Paul

▸ quoted from Tod Hansmann


	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Tod Hansmann [mailto:user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 4:54 PM 
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	
	"Status Unavailable" is a result given by the CGI script running.  I
	usually get this on new nodes when there is no data in the data
	directory (usually /home/hobbit/data, at least on my servers).  You
	might want to check the permissions on these directories and make sure
	there are files getting written to the this directory (or more
	specifically, the subfolders in it). 
	
	I don't know why you have your directories all over the place.  Our
	entire installation of hobbit on all three servers is in /home/hobbit,
	with subdirectories going out from there.  Makes things easier to secure
	and easier to manage.  Did you divide those up on purpose?
	
	Regardless, check on the permissions of the directory that you have
	setup for data compilation.  These would be the $BBVAR and the variables
	in the same section as it in your hobbitserver.cfg
	
	Tod Hansmann
	Network Engineer
	
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid]
	Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:48 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	Most likely.  There are some permission changes that have to happen in
	the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user
	apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up
	hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man
	pages.
	
	=G=
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	Galen,
	
	When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to
	the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working
	however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the
	following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
	
	
	Alias /hobbit/  "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
	<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
	    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	</Directory>
	<VirtualHost *>
	DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
	ServerName hobbit
	<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
	allow from all
	Options +Indexes
	</Directory>
	</VirtualHost>
	ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
	<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
	    AllowOverride None
	    Options ExecCGI Includes
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	</Directory>
	ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
	<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
	    AllowOverride None
	    Options ExecCGI Includes
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	    # Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept.
	    # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
	    # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd
	/etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
	    AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
	    AuthType Basic
	    AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
	    Require valid-user
	</Directory>
	
	
	Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with
	the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2
	reports, as stated below.   Now that you mention it though, its not
	requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing
	because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a
	possibility?
	
	Paul
	
	
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Cc:
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	       
	       
	        I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache
	httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include
	directive or pasted in directly.  Look in there and see if there is
	anything hobbit related.
	       
	        =G=
	       
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid; user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	       
	        Thanks for your response Thomas,
	       
	        unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless
	of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something
	simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
	       
	        Paul
	       
	                -----Original Message-----
	                From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid]
	                Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
	                To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	                Cc:
	                Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
	Available
	              
	              
	                I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen
	occasionally. I think it
	                is just the hobbit server being busy or the network
	slow. When I
	                'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
	              
	                /Thomas Kern
	                /XXX-XXX-XXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not

	Available

Hi,

Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother
	background which
is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at
	my company.

Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.

The installations all went smoothly, no error
	messages, I put
some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.

The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the
	tests
icons, instead of getting the current status for that
	hosts
tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the
	view
menus and look at the tests historically they are all
	there
and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for
	the hosts
in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
growing and receiving data from the clients.  A ps -ef

	| grep

hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and
	running.

I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure
	of
Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where
	to look.
  I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in
	reports that
makes me suspect that as well.  If I try to run a
	snapshot
report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
directory", and the config report says it cannot
	contact the
Hobbit server.

If this is the wrong place for this post, please let
	me know
and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a
	little
patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will
	promise to
do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is
	on the
other foor and support this forum.

Paul

user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid

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list Galen Johnson · Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:08:31 -0400 ·

I would compile it by hand (but that's just me)...I hate when package maintainers spread everything hither and yon (what's really wrong with it living under /usr/local or /opt?...at least you know where everything is that pertains to that application)...like apache...you might find it's actually easier to configure that way.  I'm fairly certain that there are some readme's, etc that come with the tarball that may or may not be included in the packages...if they are in the packages, I really doubt they've been updated to describe the package distribution and what/where to change things.

▸ quoted from Paul McIlrath


=G=

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:28 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Tod, 
 
Thank you for your response...this seems to be the right track. On your advice I checked the /hobbit/data directory and it is indeed empty, owned by hobbit.hobbit with 755 permissions. 
 
I do not know why the rpm installer I used spread the directories around....the main install at first glance seems to be in /usr/libexec/hobbit which contains the cgi-bin, cgi-secure and server directories. A closer look in the /usr/libexec/hobbit/server directory however shows the soft links:
 
etc  -> /etc/hobbit
tmp -> /var/lib/hobbit/tmp
web -> /etc/hobbit/web
www -> /var/lib/hobbit/www
 
the bin and ext directories are not soft linked and reside in /usr/libexec/hobbit/server.
 
I guess I made a bad assumption that this was just how every hobbit installation was set up. When I ran BB, I used to install everything to /bb/bb19c.
 
Perhaps the best question now would be, is it worth the time to try and patch up this installation to make everything work? Or would it be more productive to scrap in and use a binary installer and make/make install to build it on the environment it will be running on?
 
Paul

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Tod Hansmann [mailto:user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 4:54 PM 
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	
	"Status Unavailable" is a result given by the CGI script running.  I
	usually get this on new nodes when there is no data in the data
	directory (usually /home/hobbit/data, at least on my servers).  You
	might want to check the permissions on these directories and make sure
	there are files getting written to the this directory (or more
	specifically, the subfolders in it). 
	
	I don't know why you have your directories all over the place.  Our
	entire installation of hobbit on all three servers is in /home/hobbit,
	with subdirectories going out from there.  Makes things easier to secure
	and easier to manage.  Did you divide those up on purpose?
	
	Regardless, check on the permissions of the directory that you have
	setup for data compilation.  These would be the $BBVAR and the variables
	in the same section as it in your hobbitserver.cfg
	
	Tod Hansmann
	Network Engineer
	
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid]
	Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:48 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	Most likely.  There are some permission changes that have to happen in
	the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user
	apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up
	hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man
	pages.
	
	=G=
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	Galen,
	
	When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to
	the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working
	however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the
	following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
	
	
	Alias /hobbit/  "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
	<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
	    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	</Directory>
	<VirtualHost *>
	DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
	ServerName hobbit
	<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
	allow from all
	Options +Indexes
	</Directory>
	</VirtualHost>
	ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
	<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
	    AllowOverride None
	    Options ExecCGI Includes
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	</Directory>
	ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
	<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
	    AllowOverride None
	    Options ExecCGI Includes
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	    # Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept.
	    # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
	    # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd
	/etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
	    AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
	    AuthType Basic
	    AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
	    Require valid-user
	</Directory>
	
	
	Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with
	the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2
	reports, as stated below.   Now that you mention it though, its not
	requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing
	because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a
	possibility?
	
	Paul
	
	
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Cc:
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	       
	       
	        I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache
	httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include
	directive or pasted in directly.  Look in there and see if there is
	anything hobbit related.
	       
	        =G=
	       
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid; user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	       
	        Thanks for your response Thomas,
	       
	        unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless
	of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something
	simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
	       
	        Paul
	       
	                -----Original Message-----
	                From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid]
	                Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
	                To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	                Cc:
	                Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
	Available
	              
	              
	                I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen
	occasionally. I think it
	                is just the hobbit server being busy or the network
	slow. When I
	                'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
	              
	                /Thomas Kern
	                /XXX-XXX-XXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not

	Available

Hi,

Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother
	background which
is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at
	my company.

Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.

The installations all went smoothly, no error
	messages, I put
some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.

The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the
	tests
icons, instead of getting the current status for that
	hosts
tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the
	view
menus and look at the tests historically they are all
	there
and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for
	the hosts
in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
growing and receiving data from the clients.  A ps -ef

	| grep

hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and
	running.

I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure
	of
Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where
	to look.
  I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in
	reports that
makes me suspect that as well.  If I try to run a
	snapshot
report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
directory", and the config report says it cannot
	contact the
Hobbit server.

If this is the wrong place for this post, please let
	me know
and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a
	little
patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will
	promise to
do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is
	on the
other foor and support this forum.

Paul

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list Tod Hansmann · Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:18:29 -0600 ·

I whole-heartedly agree.  It's also more secure if you create a new,
very limited user, and compile into their home dir.  It makes for easy
backups of the whole config and historical data if you're into that sort
of thing, too.

Should be easy to do.

▸ quoted from Galen Johnson


Tod Hansmann
Network Engineer
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:09 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

I would compile it by hand (but that's just me)...I hate when package
maintainers spread everything hither and yon (what's really wrong with
it living under /usr/local or /opt?...at least you know where everything
is that pertains to that application)...like apache...you might find
it's actually easier to configure that way.  I'm fairly certain that
there are some readme's, etc that come with the tarball that may or may
not be included in the packages...if they are in the packages, I really
doubt they've been updated to describe the package distribution and
what/where to change things.

=G=

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:28 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Tod, 
 
Thank you for your response...this seems to be the right track. On your
advice I checked the /hobbit/data directory and it is indeed empty,
owned by hobbit.hobbit with 755 permissions. 
 
I do not know why the rpm installer I used spread the directories
around....the main install at first glance seems to be in
/usr/libexec/hobbit which contains the cgi-bin, cgi-secure and server
directories. A closer look in the /usr/libexec/hobbit/server directory
however shows the soft links:
 
etc  -> /etc/hobbit
tmp -> /var/lib/hobbit/tmp
web -> /etc/hobbit/web
www -> /var/lib/hobbit/www
 
the bin and ext directories are not soft linked and reside in
/usr/libexec/hobbit/server.
 
I guess I made a bad assumption that this was just how every hobbit
installation was set up. When I ran BB, I used to install everything to
/bb/bb19c.
 
Perhaps the best question now would be, is it worth the time to try and
patch up this installation to make everything work? Or would it be more
productive to scrap in and use a binary installer and make/make install
to build it on the environment it will be running on?
 
Paul

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Tod Hansmann [mailto:user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 4:54 PM 
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	
	"Status Unavailable" is a result given by the CGI script
running.  I
	usually get this on new nodes when there is no data in the data
	directory (usually /home/hobbit/data, at least on my servers).
You
	might want to check the permissions on these directories and
make sure
	there are files getting written to the this directory (or more
	specifically, the subfolders in it). 
	
	I don't know why you have your directories all over the place.
Our
	entire installation of hobbit on all three servers is in
/home/hobbit,
	with subdirectories going out from there.  Makes things easier
to secure
	and easier to manage.  Did you divide those up on purpose?
	
	Regardless, check on the permissions of the directory that you
have
	setup for data compilation.  These would be the $BBVAR and the
variables
	in the same section as it in your hobbitserver.cfg
	
	Tod Hansmann
	Network Engineer
	
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid]
	Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:48 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	Most likely.  There are some permission changes that have to
happen in
	the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow
the user
	apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set
up
	hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit
help/man
	pages.
	
	=G=
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	Galen,
	
	When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to
point to
	the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt
working
	however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and
pasted the
	following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
	
	
	Alias /hobbit/  "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
	<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
	    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	</Directory>
	<VirtualHost *>
	DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
	ServerName hobbit
	<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
	allow from all
	Options +Indexes
	</Directory>
	</VirtualHost>
	ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
	<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
	    AllowOverride None
	    Options ExecCGI Includes
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	</Directory>
	ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
	<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
	    AllowOverride None
	    Options ExecCGI Includes
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	    # Password file where users with access to these scripts are
kept.
	    # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
USERNAME"
	    # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd
	/etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
	    AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
	    AuthType Basic
	    AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
	    Require valid-user
	</Directory>
	
	
	Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started
working, with
	the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the
2
	reports, as stated below.   Now that you mention it though, its
not
	requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights
thing
	because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages.
Is that a
	possibility?
	
	Paul
	
	
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Cc:
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
Available
	       
	       
	        I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your
apache
	httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an
Include
	directive or pasted in directly.  Look in there and see if there
is
	anything hobbit related.
	       
	        =G=
	       
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid; user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
Available
	       
	        Thanks for your response Thomas,
	       
	        unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time,
regardless
	of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked
something
	simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
	       
	        Paul
	       
	                -----Original Message-----
	                From: Kern, Thomas
[mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid]
	                Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
	                To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	                Cc:
	                Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status
not
	Available
	              
	              
	                I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen
	occasionally. I think it
	                is just the hobbit server being busy or the
network
	slow. When I
	                'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of
data.
	              
	                /Thomas Kern
	                /XXX-XXX-XXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul

[mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not

	Available

Hi,

Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother
	background which
is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring
project at
	my company.

Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2,
and
rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit
from
hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.

The installations all went smoothly, no error
	messages, I put
some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up
hobbitd.

The main page comes up, but when I click on
any of the
	tests
icons, instead of getting the current status
for that
	hosts
tests, I get a blank page with "Status not

Available".

However, if I click on "all Non-Green view"
from the
	view
menus and look at the tests historically they
are all
	there
and can be viewed normally. I checked the
files for
	the hosts
in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and
they are
growing and receiving data from the clients.

A ps -ef
	| grep

hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up
and
	running.

I suspect its a permissions thing, but the
structure
	of
Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure
where
	to look.
  I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors
in
	reports that
makes me suspect that as well.  If I try to
run a
	snapshot
report I get a blank page with "Cannot create
output
directory", and the config report says it
cannot
	contact the
Hobbit server.

If this is the wrong place for this post,
please let
	me know
and I will go where I should. And if anyone
has a
	little
patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I
will
	promise to
do my time helping other NooBs along when the
shoe is
	on the
other foor and support this forum.

Paul

user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid

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list Paul McIlrath · Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:12:06 -0700 ·

Ok, I got rid of the rpm install and started over. 
 
I downloaded the latest hobbit binary and freetyp2, libart, libpng and rrdtool binaries and started from scratch. 
 
Everything is installed and I used the hobbit-apache.conf example created by the install to configure apache. 
 
Fired it all up, and hobbit seemed to be running fine...but when I click on any link, I get a strange error that says Internet Explorer (or Firefox) cannot download the file....instead of following the link to the details page for that test. I get the same thing with reports, trends, etc, etc. Only non-green seems to be working. 
 
Im pretty sure that it has to be something to do with cgi-bin or seccgi, so Im poring over my httpd.conf file line by line to see if something somewhere is conflicting with the example setup from the hobbit install (pasted into the bottom of my httpd.conf). 
 
Has anyone seen this before?

▸ quoted from Tod Hansmann

 
Paul

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 3:47 PM 
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	
	Most likely.  There are some permission changes that have to happen in the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man pages.
	
	=G=
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	Galen,
	
	When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
	
	
	Alias /hobbit/  "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
	<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
	    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	</Directory>
	<VirtualHost *>
	DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
	ServerName hobbit
	<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
	allow from all
	Options +Indexes
	</Directory>
	</VirtualHost>
	ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
	<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
	    AllowOverride None
	    Options ExecCGI Includes
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	</Directory>
	ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
	<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
	    AllowOverride None
	    Options ExecCGI Includes
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	    # Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept.
	    # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
	    # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
	    AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
	    AuthType Basic
	    AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
	    Require valid-user
	</Directory>
	
	
	Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2 reports, as stated below.   Now that you mention it though, its not requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a possibility?
	
	Paul
	
	
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Cc:
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	       
	       
	        I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly.  Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related.
	       
	        =G=
	       
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid; user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	       
	        Thanks for your response Thomas,
	       
	        unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
	       
	        Paul
	       
	                -----Original Message-----
	                From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid]
	                Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
	                To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	                Cc:
	                Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	              
	              
	                I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
	                is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
	                'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
	              
	                /Thomas Kern
	                /XXX-XXX-XXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Hi,

Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which
is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.

Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.

The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put
some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.

The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests
icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts
tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view
menus and look at the tests historically they are all there
and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts
in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
growing and receiving data from the clients.  A ps -ef | grep
hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.

I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of
Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.
  I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that
makes me suspect that as well.  If I try to run a snapshot
report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the
Hobbit server.

If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know
and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little
patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to
do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the
other foor and support this forum.

Paul

user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid

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list Hobbit User · Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:52:29 -0400 (EDT) ·

▸ quoted from Paul McIlrath

On Thu, October 4, 2007 18:12, McIlrath, Paul wrote:

Ok, I got rid of the rpm install and started over.

I downloaded the latest hobbit binary and freetyp2, libart, libpng and
rrdtool binaries and started from scratch.

Everything is installed and I used the hobbit-apache.conf example created
by the install to configure apache.

Fired it all up, and hobbit seemed to be running fine...but when I click
on any link, I get a strange error that says Internet Explorer (or
Firefox) cannot download the file....instead of following the link to the
details page for that test. I get the same thing with reports, trends,
etc, etc. Only non-green seems to be working.

Im pretty sure that it has to be something to do with cgi-bin or seccgi,
so Im poring over my httpd.conf file line by line to see if something
somewhere is conflicting with the example setup from the hobbit install
(pasted into the bottom of my httpd.conf).

Has anyone seen this before?

Make sure _everything_ in the cgi-bin directory is executable.  I've found
on many platforms Apache will not execute any of the objects if even one
of them is non-executable.
chmod -R 755 /usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin

May not be your problem, but that's fixed similar ones for me.

list Paul McIlrath · Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:13:18 -0700 ·

Everything I could see in the cgi-bin directory was already 755 but I ran a chmod 755 *   as root in the cgi-bin directory anyway. Restarted hobbit and httpd, no change.  Thanks for the suggestion, but still seeing the problem. 
 
Paul

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	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Hobbit User [mailto:user-24d6f8323faa@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Thu 10/4/2007 4:52 PM 
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	
	On Thu, October 4, 2007 18:12, McIlrath, Paul wrote:

Ok, I got rid of the rpm install and started over.

I downloaded the latest hobbit binary and freetyp2, libart, libpng and
rrdtool binaries and started from scratch.

Everything is installed and I used the hobbit-apache.conf example created
by the install to configure apache.

Fired it all up, and hobbit seemed to be running fine...but when I click
on any link, I get a strange error that says Internet Explorer (or
Firefox) cannot download the file....instead of following the link to the
details page for that test. I get the same thing with reports, trends,
etc, etc. Only non-green seems to be working.

Im pretty sure that it has to be something to do with cgi-bin or seccgi,
so Im poring over my httpd.conf file line by line to see if something
somewhere is conflicting with the example setup from the hobbit install
(pasted into the bottom of my httpd.conf).

Has anyone seen this before?

	
	Make sure _everything_ in the cgi-bin directory is executable.  I've found
	on many platforms Apache will not execute any of the objects if even one
	of them is non-executable.
	chmod -R 755 /usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin
	
	May not be your problem, but that's fixed similar ones for me.
	
	
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list Trent Melcher · Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:35:50 -0500 ·

▸ quoted from Paul McIlrath

On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 15:12 -0700, McIlrath, Paul wrote:

Ok, I got rid of the rpm install and started over. 
 
I downloaded the latest hobbit binary and freetyp2, libart, libpng and rrdtool binaries and started from scratch. 
 
Everything is installed and I used the hobbit-apache.conf example created by the install to configure apache. 
 
Fired it all up, and hobbit seemed to be running fine...but when I click on any link, I get a strange error that says Internet Explorer (or Firefox) cannot download the file....instead of following the link to the details page for that test. I get the same thing with reports, trends, etc, etc. Only non-green seems to be working. 
 
Im pretty sure that it has to be something to do with cgi-bin or seccgi, so Im poring over my httpd.conf file line by line to see if something somewhere is conflicting with the example setup from the hobbit install (pasted into the bottom of my httpd.conf). 
 
Has anyone seen this before?

Make sure your bb-hostsvc.sh  is pointing to the right location for your
binaries

here is an example of mine
#!/bin/sh

# This is a wrapper for the Hobbit hobbitsvc.cgi script

. /usr/local/hobbit/server/etc/hobbitcgi.cfg
 exec /usr/local/hobbit/server/bin/hobbitsvc.cgi $CGI_SVC_OPTS


Another test would be see if you can execute the shell script yourself
and see what you get for an error
Trent

▸ quoted from Paul McIlrath

Paul

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 3:47 PM 
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	
	Most likely.  There are some permission changes that have to happen in the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man pages.
	
	=G=
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	
	Galen,
	
	When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
	
	
	Alias /hobbit/  "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
	<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
	    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	</Directory>
	<VirtualHost *>
	DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
	ServerName hobbit
	<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
	allow from all
	Options +Indexes
	</Directory>
	</VirtualHost>
	ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
	<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
	    AllowOverride None
	    Options ExecCGI Includes
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	</Directory>
	ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
	<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
	    AllowOverride None
	    Options ExecCGI Includes
	    Order allow,deny
	    Allow from all
	    # Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept.
	    # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
	    # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
	    AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
	    AuthType Basic
	    AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
	    Require valid-user
	</Directory>
	
	
	Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2 reports, as stated below.   Now that you mention it though, its not requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a possibility?
	
	Paul
	
	
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Cc:
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	       
	       
	        I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly.  Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related.
	       
	        =G=
	       
	        -----Original Message-----
	        From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
	        Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
	        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid; user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	        Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	       
	        Thanks for your response Thomas,
	       
	        unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
	       
	        Paul
	       
	                -----Original Message-----
	                From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid]
	                Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
	                To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	                Cc:
	                Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
	              
	              
	                I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
	                is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
	                'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
	              
	                /Thomas Kern
	                /XXX-XXX-XXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:user-03ec167d2f2d@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available

Hi,

Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which
is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.

Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.

The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put
some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.

The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests
icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts
tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view
menus and look at the tests historically they are all there
and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts
in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
growing and receiving data from the clients.  A ps -ef | grep
hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.

I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of
Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.
  I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that
makes me suspect that as well.  If I try to run a snapshot
report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the
Hobbit server.

If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know
and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little
patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to
do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the
other foor and support this forum.

Paul

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