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Acknowledge problem

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list Claessens Jurgen · Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:36:06 +0000 ·
Hello all,

First of all I would like to say what a wonderful tool xymon is. I have been using it since hobbit and still am amazed at what you can do with it.

Currently I'm running xymon 4.3.12 on opensuse 12.3 and I've run into a snag.
I have had a yellow disk warning, but as most know, time enough to clear out disk space. However meanwhile the disk space had increased at such a rate, that it was completely full.
What's the problem? Well, it never came out of acknowledgment. If it turns from yellow to red, I would expect the ack to be removed.
Did anybody encounter this issue before? Is what I expect not possible?

Kind regards

Jurgen

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list Henrik Størner · Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:45:35 +0100 ·
quoted from Claessens Jurgen
 

Den 2014-01-23 11:36, Claessens Jurgen skrev: 
Currently I'm
running xymon 4.3.12 on opensuse 12.3 and I've run into a snag. 

I
have had a yellow disk warning, but as most know, time enough to clear
out disk space. However meanwhile the disk space had increased at such a
rate, that it was completely full. 

What's the problem? Well, it
never came out of acknowledgment. If it turns from yellow to red, I
would expect the ack to be removed. 

Did anybody encounter this
issue before? Is what I expect not possible?
This is "works as
designed". 

As far as Xymon is concerned, once an event has been
ack'ed, then it won't care about it until it has returned to green or
the ack expires. Ack'ing an event means "I know about it, and I'll fix
it" - then it is the admin's responsibility to handle it. If it goes
from yellow to red while he is doing that, is not something Xymon
worries about. 

This is because the primary purpose of an ack is to
stop alerts from being triggered - you dont want to be pestered with
alerts while you are working on an issue. Also, if you have e.g. a disk
that is flipping between yellow and red, then you don't want to
constantly re-ack the event just because the color changed. 

You could
argue that an ack should be associated with a severity - so an
ack-on-yellow would not have effect when the status went red; then you
would have to re-ack it. But both acks should remain in effect until the
status goes green. But that is not how the system works right now.


Regards,
Henrik
list Claessens Jurgen · Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:04:55 +0000 ·
Hi Henrik,

Thank you for the swift response.
You are right, when flipping between yellow-red this would be very annoying.

Thanks
quoted from Henrik Størner

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Den 2014-01-23 11:36, Claessens Jurgen skrev:
Currently I’m running xymon 4.3.12 on opensuse 12.3 and I’ve run into a snag.
I have had a yellow disk warning, but as most know, time enough to clear out disk space. However meanwhile the disk space had increased at such a rate, that it was completely full.
What’s the problem? Well, it never came out of acknowledgment. If it turns from yellow to red, I would expect the ack to be removed.
Did anybody encounter this issue before? Is what I expect not possible?

This is "works as designed".
As far as Xymon is concerned, once an event has been ack'ed, then it won't care about it until it has returned to green or the ack expires. Ack'ing an event means "I know about it, and I'll fix it" - then it is the admin's responsibility to handle it. If it goes from yellow to red while he is doing that, is not something Xymon worries about.
This is because the primary purpose of an ack is to stop alerts from being triggered - you dont want to be pestered with alerts while you are working on an issue. Also, if you have e.g. a disk that is flipping between yellow and red, then you don't want to constantly re-ack the event just because the color changed.
You could argue that an ack should be associated with a severity - so an ack-on-yellow would not have effect when the status went red; then you would have to re-ack it. But both acks should remain in effect until the status goes green. But that is not how the system works right now.

Regards,
Henrik


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list John Rothlisberger · Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:29:58 +0000 ·
This reminds me of a wish-list item…

When acking an alert for (example) C: drive, if after that point D: starts to fill up it will also be included within the ack.  So, the wish list item is to treat each item under an alert (disk/process/service) as separate items.

I know, keep wishing… ☺

Thanks,
John
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quoted from Claessens Jurgen

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Den 2014-01-23 11:36, Claessens Jurgen skrev:
Currently I’m running xymon 4.3.12 on opensuse 12.3 and I’ve run into a snag.
I have had a yellow disk warning, but as most know, time enough to clear out disk space. However meanwhile the disk space had increased at such a rate, that it was completely full.
What’s the problem? Well, it never came out of acknowledgment. If it turns from yellow to red, I would expect the ack to be removed.
Did anybody encounter this issue before? Is what I expect not possible?

This is "works as designed".
As far as Xymon is concerned, once an event has been ack'ed, then it won't care about it until it has returned to green or the ack expires. Ack'ing an event means "I know about it, and I'll fix it" - then it is the admin's responsibility to handle it. If it goes from yellow to red while he is doing that, is not something Xymon worries about.
This is because the primary purpose of an ack is to stop alerts from being triggered - you dont want to be pestered with alerts while you are working on an issue. Also, if you have e.g. a disk that is flipping between yellow and red, then you don't want to constantly re-ack the event just because the color changed.
You could argue that an ack should be associated with a severity - so an ack-on-yellow would not have effect when the status went red; then you would have to re-ack it. But both acks should remain in effect until the status goes green. But that is not how the system works right now.

Regards,
Henrik


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