Connections never going yellow?
list Rafal Roginela
Hi all, Thank you for all the help in the past with the questions I've had. All is working well and I have good confidence in my implementation of this tool. However since I am a convert from BigBrother (Free version) there is a difference that I hope we can find a way to emulate. The background: We have approx 60 locations sitting out in the US connecting back to HQ via commodity DSL using VPN. Naturally we have some packet loss on those connections periodically, especially when printing within Citrix or when it is busy with data going back and forth. The issue: What used to happen with BB is that when there was a skipped ping out of 3 an orange condition would trigger not red. What happens with Hobbit is that now I never get a yellow but rather get a RED and then a Green within seconds of each other instead of a yellow. Here is the "FPING" line from my server config: FPING="$BBHOME/bin/hobbitping --max-pps=10000000 --responses=5" I was had changed this "--responses=5" in hopes that it would produce the same results but it does not. And I do ping my sites every minute no matter what to test them. Overall the BBtest statistics report that I have a total of 83 host pinged and the most time it ever took for "Time Total" on the graph is approx 18 seconds and that happened once. Most times it is approx 5 seconds. Is there a set of switches or some other way to get the same behavior from Hobbit that I had with BB. Thank You for all the help in the past and thank you in advance! Rafal Roginela Network Engineer
list Rafal Roginela
Hi all, Second try, Is this just not possible? :-(
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Thank you for all the help in the past with the questions I've had. All
is working well and I have good confidence in my implementation of this
tool. However since I am a convert from BigBrother (Free version) there
is a difference that I hope we can find a way to emulate.
The background:
We have approx 60 locations sitting out in the US connecting back to HQ
via commodity DSL using VPN. Naturally we have some packet loss on those
connections periodically, especially when printing within Citrix or when
it is busy with data going back and forth.
The issue:
What used to happen with BB is that when there was a skipped ping out of
3 an orange condition would trigger not red.
What happens with Hobbit is that now I never get a yellow but rather get
a RED and then a Green within seconds of each other instead of a yellow.
Here is the "FPING" line from my server config:
FPING="$BBHOME/bin/hobbitping --max-pps=10000000 --responses=5"
I was had changed this "--responses=5" in hopes that it would produce
the same results but it does not.
And I do ping my sites every minute no matter what to test them. Overall
the BBtest statistics report that I have a total of 83 host pinged and
the most time it ever took for "Time Total" on the graph is approx 18
seconds and that happened once. Most times it is approx 5 seconds.
Is there a set of switches or some other way to get the same behavior
from Hobbit that I had with BB.
Thank You for all the help in the past and thank you in advance!
Rafal Roginela
Network Engineer
list Josh Luthman
Rafal, If I recall correctly this is a feature that will be implemented out of the box in 4.3.0 as I am looking forward to this feature as well. Josh On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Rafal Roginela <
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user-744e62462615@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Hi all, Second try, Is this just not possible? :-( Thank you for all the help in the past with the questions I've had. All is working well and I have good confidence in my implementation of this tool. However since I am a convert from BigBrother (Free version) there is a difference that I hope we can find a way to emulate. The background: We have approx 60 locations sitting out in the US connecting back to HQ via commodity DSL using VPN. Naturally we have some packet loss on those connections periodically, especially when printing within Citrix or when it is busy with data going back and forth. The issue: What used to happen with BB is that when there was a skipped ping out of 3 an orange condition would trigger not red. What happens with Hobbit is that now I never get a yellow but rather get a RED and then a Green within seconds of each other instead of a yellow. Here is the "FPING" line from my server config: FPING="$BBHOME/bin/hobbitping --max-pps=10000000 *--responses=5*" I was had changed this "*--responses=5"* in hopes that it would produce the same results but it does not. And I do ping my sites every minute no matter what to test them. Overall the BBtest statistics report that I have a total of 83 host pinged and the most time it ever took for "Time Total" on the graph is approx 18 seconds and that happened once. Most times it is approx 5 seconds. Is there a set of switches or some other way to get the same behavior from Hobbit that I had with BB. Thank You for all the help in the past and thank you in advance! *Rafal Roginela** *Network Engineer
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list Rafal Roginela
Thanks Josh, The one thing I did try was to add a command switch to fping that would produce that output just like a windows ping, (I think it was -c=3) but that just breaks the conn test and I get red all around. Well I'll impatiently wait for the release and hope this issue gets resolved ;-). Thanks for the answer Josh at least I know there is hope. Thank You, Rafal Roginela
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From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:39 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] FW: Connections never going yellow?
Rafal,
If I recall correctly this is a feature that will be implemented out of
the box in 4.3.0 as I am looking forward to this feature as well.
Josh
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Rafal Roginela
<user-744e62462615@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Hi all,
Second try, Is this just not possible? :-(
Thank you for all the help in the past with the questions I've had. All
is working well and I have good confidence in my implementation of this
tool. However since I am a convert from BigBrother (Free version) there
is a difference that I hope we can find a way to emulate.
The background:
We have approx 60 locations sitting out in the US connecting back to HQ
via commodity DSL using VPN. Naturally we have some packet loss on those
connections periodically, especially when printing within Citrix or when
it is busy with data going back and forth.
The issue:
What used to happen with BB is that when there was a skipped ping out of
3 an orange condition would trigger not red.
What happens with Hobbit is that now I never get a yellow but rather get
a RED and then a Green within seconds of each other instead of a yellow.
Here is the "FPING" line from my server config:
FPING="$BBHOME/bin/hobbitping --max-pps=10000000 --responses=5"
I was had changed this "--responses=5" in hopes that it would produce
the same results but it does not.
And I do ping my sites every minute no matter what to test them. Overall
the BBtest statistics report that I have a total of 83 host pinged and
the most time it ever took for "Time Total" on the graph is approx 18
seconds and that happened once. Most times it is approx 5 seconds.
Is there a set of switches or some other way to get the same behavior
from Hobbit that I had with BB.
Thank You for all the help in the past and thank you in advance!
Rafal Roginela
Network Engineer
--
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX
Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
list S Aiello
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On Thursday 03 April 2008, Rafal Roginela wrote:
Thanks Josh, The one thing I did try was to add a command switch to fping that would produce that output just like a windows ping, (I think it was -c=3) but that just breaks the conn test and I get red all around. Well I'll impatiently wait for the release and hope this issue gets resolved ;-). Thanks for the answer Josh at least I know there is hope.
Have you looked at the badTEST bbtag ? you could use badconn:3:3:5. That would go yellow after 3 & red after 5 successive ping failures. Though maybe too much of a delay for you. man bb-hosts for more info on badTEST usage. ~Steve
list Rafal Roginela
Hi Steve, Thank You for the suggestion but that might help because it would only mean a 1 minute down time before a red which is not ideal but might help in the mean while. What I think this does: 1. Ping fails 2. Condition stays green 3. Ping is retried in 1 minute per setting 4. Ping fails 5. Condition stays green 6. Ping is retried in 1 minute per setting 7. Ping fails 8. Condition changes to yellow 9. Ping is retried in 1 minute per setting 10. Ping fails 11. condition stays Yellow 12. Ping is retried in 1 minute per setting 13. Ping fails 14. Condition goes Red If that is correct then it will not work for me but this gives me some things to try. Because the site will be down for 5 whole minutes before Red. This certainly shows off the thought put in to the software though! But this might work with some modifications. It prompts me to ask a different question can the retry be set for less then 1 minute? I'm gonna go search the docs and list! Thank You Steve you might be onto something! Rafal Roginela
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From: user-ce96540ed38f@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-ce96540ed38f@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:47 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] FW: Connections never going yellow?
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Rafal Roginela wrote:Thanks Josh, The one thing I did try was to add a command switch to fping that would produce that output just like a windows ping, (I think it was -c=3) but that just breaks the conn test and I get red all around. Well I'll impatiently wait for the release and hope this issue gets resolved
;-).
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Thanks for the answer Josh at least I know there is hope.
Have you looked at the badTEST bbtag ? you could use badconn:3:3:5. That would go yellow after 3 & red after 5 successive ping failures. Though maybe too much of a delay for you. man bb-hosts for more info on badTEST usage. ~Steve
list Bryan A Kennedy
Hi. Does the latest version of BBWin, 0.11, use msgcache so the Hobbit server can pull data from the Windows clients? Thank you. Bryan
list Rafal Roginela
Hi Steve, I think I figgured out how to accomplish this but we will see in testing and how bad this will be on the size of log files. But thank you for the suggestion and found the docs that you can do retest in seconds not minutes so I think I can get the yellow situation figgured out quickly. Thank You so much!
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Rafal Roginela
-----Original Message-----
From: user-ce96540ed38f@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-ce96540ed38f@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:47 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] FW: Connections never going yellow?
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Rafal Roginela wrote:Thanks Josh, The one thing I did try was to add a command switch to fping that would produce that output just like a windows ping, (I think it was -c=3) but that just breaks the conn test and I get red all around. Well I'll impatiently wait for the release and hope this issue gets resolved
;-).
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Thanks for the answer Josh at least I know there is hope.
Have you looked at the badTEST bbtag ? you could use badconn:3:3:5. That would go yellow after 3 & red after 5 successive ping failures. Though maybe too much of a delay for you. man bb-hosts for more info on badTEST usage. ~Steve
list Etienne Grignon
Hello, 2008/4/3, Bryan A Kennedy <user-89addf3fbee6@xymon.invalid>:
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Hi. Does the latest version of BBWin, 0.11, use msgcache so the Hobbit server can pull data from the Windows clients? Thank you.
Unfortunately, this is not supported for the moment. -- Etienne GRIGNON
list Magnus Carlebjörk
Hi,
I'm having problems using spaces in service names in hobbit-clients.cfg. Here is an example block for a host:
HOST=ABCD123
UP 1h
SVC "Pml Driver HPZ12" startup=automatic status=started color=red
PROC pageant.exe 1 1
LOAD 80 95
DISK * 90 95
MEMPHYS 90 101
MEMSWAP 80 90
MEMACT 90 97
Even though the service is started, hobbit cannot find the service:
red Fri Apr 04 10:57:22 2008 - Services NOT ok &red Pml Driver HPZ12 is Not Found req automatic started
However, looking at the output on the status page, I can see that the service is reported and started:
Name StartupType Status DisplayName
Pml Driver HPZ12 automatic started Pml Driver HPZ12
I'm using 4.3.0-0.20080402. String handling bug?
Regards,
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Magnus Carlebjork
Stockholm, Sweden
+46 76 116 9008
list Matthew Roberts
Hi All,
I am having the same problem as the one below except I am using hobbit 4.2 with
the allinone patch and the bbwin patch. I was unable to find a solution within
the Mailing List archives so does anyone have a solution? Or is it something
which is an ongoing issue?
Regards,
Problem using spaces in hobbit-clients.cfg (SVCs)?
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Problem using spaces in hobbit-clients.cfg (SVCs)?
From: Magnus Carlebjörk <user-c92457131d08@xymon.invalid>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:06:54 +0200 (CEST)
References: <user-7b97badfac53@xymon.invalid>
<user-ea90efd95852@xymon.invalid> <user-3cb0c7e92587@xymon.invalid>
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Hi,
I'm having problems using spaces in service names in hobbit-clients.cfg. Here is
an example block for a host:
HOST=ABCD123
UP 1h
SVC "Pml Driver HPZ12" startup=automatic status=started color=red
PROC pageant.exe 1 1
LOAD 80 95
DISK * 90 95
MEMPHYS 90 101
MEMSWAP 80 90
MEMACT 90 97
Even though the service is started, hobbit cannot find the service:
red Fri Apr 04 10:57:22 2008 - Services NOT ok &red Pml Driver HPZ12 is Not
Found req automatic started
However, looking at the output on the status page, I can see that the service is
reported and started:
Name StartupType Status DisplayName
Pml Driver HPZ12 automatic started Pml Driver HPZ12
I'm using 4.3.0-0.20080402. String handling bug?
Regards,
--
Magnus Carlebjork
Stockholm, Sweden
+46 76 116 9008