Secondary ping?
list Michael Nemeth
Heres the problem my hobbit server can ping HostA and HostB but SOMETIMES HostA and HostB cannot ping each other . Besides a client side script, anyone think of a way to do this and take advantage of hobbit functionality. BBNET? route ? something else?
list Martin Ward
Michael, What exactly are you after? If the problem is that HostA cannot ping HostB all the time then this points to a networking issue: Firewall? Dodgy network cable? Too much traffic and too short a time-out? If your Hobbit server can ping both hosts then it's doing its job and there are no problems, with Hobbit at least... |\/|artin
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From: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid] Sent: 14 August 2008 16:40
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Secondary ping?
Heres the problem my hobbit server can ping HostA and HostB but SOMETIMES HostA and HostB
cannot ping each other . Besides a client side script, anyone think of a way to do this and take advantage of
hobbit functionality. BBNET? route ? something else?
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list Michael Nemeth
The Network problem IS exactly what I want to detect! Ward, Martin wrote:
Michael,
What exactly are you after? If the problem is that HostA cannot ping
HostB all the time then this points to a networking issue: Firewall?
Dodgy network cable? Too much traffic and too short a time-out?
If your Hobbit server can ping both hosts then it's doing its job and
there are no problems, with Hobbit at least...
|\/|artin
-----Original Message-----
From: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid] Sent: 14 August 2008 16:40
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Secondary ping?
Heres the problem my hobbit server can ping HostA and HostB but SOMETIMES HostA and HostB
cannot ping each other . Besides a client side script, anyone think of a way to do this and take advantage of
hobbit functionality. BBNET? route ? something else?
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list Michael Nemeth
No one has any input? Going to start working this issue myself soon.
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michael nemeth wrote:The Network problem IS exactly what I want to detect! Ward, Martin wrote:Michael, What exactly are you after? If the problem is that HostA cannot ping HostB all the time then this points to a networking issue: Firewall? Dodgy network cable? Too much traffic and too short a time-out? If your Hobbit server can ping both hosts then it's doing its job and there are no problems, with Hobbit at least... |\/|artin -----Original Message----- From: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid] Sent: 14 August 2008 16:40 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Secondary ping? Heres the problem my hobbit server can ping HostA and HostB but SOMETIMES HostA and HostB cannot ping each other . Besides a client side script, anyone think of a way to do this and take advantage of hobbit functionality. BBNET? route ? something else? ************************************************************************************* The message is intended for the named addressee only and may not be disclosed to or used by anyone else, nor may it be copied in any way. The contents of this message and its attachments are confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the named addressee and/or have received this message in error, please advise us by e-mailing user-61c7f445d564@xymon.invalid and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies. Internet communications are not secure and COLT does not accept responsibility for this message, its contents nor responsibility for any viruses. No contracts can be created or varied on behalf of COLT Telecommunications, its subsidiaries or affiliates ("COLT") and any other party by email Communications unless expressly agreed in writing with such other party. Please note that incoming emails will be automatically scanned to eliminate potential viruses and unsolicited promotional emails. For more information refer to www.colt.net or contact us on +44(0)20 7390 3900.
list Geoff Hallford
So, you need to know when HostA can't ping HostB? Is this because it is a cluster or something? I would suggest a simple vbscript on HostA and HostB that pings the other and puts the results (green or red) in a file. Then just pass that to BBWin or use bbsend.exe as an alternative to Hobbit. You could call the new status column something like 'cluster' or 'interconnect' ... whatever. I don't think that route or anything will work for this, as these are not routers are they?
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On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:02 AM, michael nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>wrote:
No one has any input? Going to start working this issue myself soon. michael nemeth wrote:The Network problem IS exactly what I want to detect! Ward, Martin wrote:Michael, What exactly are you after? If the problem is that HostA cannot ping HostB all the time then this points to a networking issue: Firewall? Dodgy network cable? Too much traffic and too short a time-out? If your Hobbit server can ping both hosts then it's doing its job and there are no problems, with Hobbit at least... |\/|artin -----Original Message----- From: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid] Sent: 14 August 2008 16:40 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Secondary ping? Heres the problem my hobbit server can ping HostA and HostB but SOMETIMES HostA and HostB cannot ping each other . Besides a client side script, anyone think of a way to do this and take advantage of hobbit functionality. BBNET? route ? something else? ************************************************************************************* The message is intended for the named addressee only and may not be disclosed to or used by anyone else, nor may it be copied in any way. The contents of this message and its attachments are confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the named addressee and/or have received this message in error, please advise us by e-mailing user-61c7f445d564@xymon.invalid and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies. Internet communications are not secure and COLT does not accept responsibility for this message, its contents nor responsibility for any viruses. No contracts can be created or varied on behalf of COLT Telecommunications, its subsidiaries or affiliates ("COLT") and any other party by email Communications unless expressly agreed in writing with such other party. Please note that incoming emails will be automatically scanned to eliminate potential viruses and unsolicited promotional emails. For more information refer to www.colt.net or contact us on +44(0)20 7390 3900.
list Michael Nemeth
Ive unix and linux system but script is a script.
Is this because it is a cluster or something?
No I think it because the network team makes changes but tell no one AND the attitude "well it works for Windoze boxes" . But it may and I believe can be due too other network problems, like too much traffic. Probable what I'll is a script . Now ,I don't think that a route actually need to be network hardware; at least I've routed though servers before in one card out another. I was thinking of something like hobbit server xxx.xxx.xxx Hostb # route:router1,Hosta route2,router3 Or setting up a bbnet on Hosta Or as you say a script. Looking to see If others have handed this problem through hobbit before I did something or if some would say ; "Yes use route or bbnet would be better choice or something else ."!
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Geoff Hallford wrote:So, you need to know when HostA can't ping HostB? Is this because it
is a cluster or something?
I would suggest a simple vbscript on HostA and HostB that pings the
other and puts the results (green or red) in a file. Then just pass
that to BBWin or use bbsend.exe as an alternative to Hobbit. You could
call the new status column something like 'cluster' or 'interconnect'
... whatever.
I don't think that route or anything will work for this, as these are
not routers are they?
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:02 AM, michael nemeth
<user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
No one has any input? Going to start working this issue myself soon.
michael nemeth wrote:
The Network problem IS exactly what I want to detect! Ward,
Martin wrote:
Michael,
What exactly are you after? If the problem is that HostA
cannot ping
HostB all the time then this points to a networking issue:
Firewall?
Dodgy network cable? Too much traffic and too short a
time-out?
If your Hobbit server can ping both hosts then it's doing
its job and
there are no problems, with Hobbit at least...
|\/|artin
-----Original Message-----
From: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid
<mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>] Sent: 14 August 2008 16:40
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
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Subject: [hobbit] Secondary ping?
Heres the problem my hobbit server can ping HostA and
HostB but SOMETIMES HostA and HostB
cannot ping each other . Besides a client side script,
anyone think of a way to do this and take advantage of
hobbit functionality. BBNET? route ? something else?
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user-61c7f445d564@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-61c7f445d564@xymon.invalid> and delete
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list Geoff Hallford
Okay, just if you are testing connectivity from HostA to HostB it has to route *through* HostA and as HostA isn't a router, using the route tag only tests from Hobbit to HostB or HostA, not from Host to Host. I don't know enough about bbnet to comment on that aspect though. Script will work (shell, perl, ...) if all else fails. You could use bb (through client) to send results or bbsend.pl. 'Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.' --Yogi Berra
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On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:01 AM, michael nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>wrote:
Ive unix and linux system but script is a script.Is this because it is a cluster or something?No I think it because the network team makes changes but tell no one AND the attitude "well it works for Windoze boxes" . But it may and I believe can be due too other network problems, like too much traffic. Probable what I'll is a script . Now ,I don't think that a route actually need to be network hardware; at least I've routed though servers before in one card out another. I was thinking of something like hobbit server xxx.xxx.xxx Hostb # route:router1,Hosta route2,router3 Or setting up a bbnet on Hosta Or as you say a script. Looking to see If others have handed this problem through hobbit before I did something or if some would say ; "Yes use route or bbnet would be better choice or something else ."! Geoff Hallford wrote: So, you need to know when HostA can't ping HostB? Is this because it is a cluster or something? I would suggest a simple vbscript on HostA and HostB that pings the other and puts the results (green or red) in a file. Then just pass that to BBWin or use bbsend.exe as an alternative to Hobbit. You could call the new status column something like 'cluster' or 'interconnect' ... whatever. I don't think that route or anything will work for this, as these are not routers are they? On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:02 AM, michael nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>wrote:No one has any input? Going to start working this issue myself soon. michael nemeth wrote:The Network problem IS exactly what I want to detect! Ward, Martin wrote:Michael, What exactly are you after? If the problem is that HostA cannot ping HostB all the time then this points to a networking issue: Firewall? Dodgy network cable? Too much traffic and too short a time-out? If your Hobbit server can ping both hosts then it's doing its job and there are no problems, with Hobbit at least... |\/|artin -----Original Message----- From: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid] Sent: 14 August 2008 16:40 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Secondary ping? Heres the problem my hobbit server can ping HostA and HostB but SOMETIMES HostA and HostB cannot ping each other . Besides a client side script, anyone think of a way to do this and take advantage of hobbit functionality. BBNET? route ? something else? ************************************************************************************* The message is intended for the named addressee only and may not be disclosed to or used by anyone else, nor may it be copied in any way. The contents of this message and its attachments are confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the named addressee and/or have received this message in error, please advise us by e-mailing user-61c7f445d564@xymon.invalid and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies. Internet communications are not secure and COLT does not accept responsibility for this message, its contents nor responsibility for any viruses. No contracts can be created or varied on behalf of COLT Telecommunications, its subsidiaries or affiliates ("COLT") and any other party by email Communications unless expressly agreed in writing with such other party. Please note that incoming emails will be automatically scanned to eliminate potential viruses and unsolicited promotional emails. For more information refer to www.colt.net or contact us on +44(0)20 7390 3900.
list Michael Nemeth
With route if is HostA is down for example (or unusable Im hoping ) I will not get a color change (yellow I think)?
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Geoff Hallford wrote:Okay, just if you are testing connectivity from HostA to HostB it has to route _through_ HostA and as HostA isn't a router, using the route tag only tests from Hobbit to HostB or HostA, not from Host to Host. I don't know enough about bbnet to comment on that aspect though. Script will work (shell, perl, ...) if all else fails. You could use bb (through client) to send results or bbsend.pl. 'Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.' --Yogi Berra On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:01 AM, michael nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>> wrote: Ive unix and linux system but script is a script.Is this because it is a cluster or something?No I think it because the network team makes changes but tell no one AND the attitude "well it works for Windoze boxes" . But it may and I believe can be due too other network problems, like too much traffic. Probable what I'll is a script . Now ,I don't think that a route actually need to be network hardware; at least I've routed though servers before in one card out another. I was thinking of something like hobbit server xxx.xxx.xxx Hostb # route:router1,Hosta route2,router3 Or setting up a bbnet on Hosta Or as you say a script. Looking to see If others have handed this problem through hobbit before I did something or if some would say ; "Yes use route or bbnet would be better choice or something else ."! Geoff Hallford wrote:So, you need to know when HostA can't ping HostB? Is this because it is a cluster or something? I would suggest a simple vbscript on HostA and HostB that pings the other and puts the results (green or red) in a file. Then just pass that to BBWin or use bbsend.exe as an alternative to Hobbit. You could call the new status column something like 'cluster' or 'interconnect' ... whatever. I don't think that route or anything will work for this, as these are not routers are they? On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:02 AM, michael nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>> wrote: No one has any input? Going to start working this issue myself soon. michael nemeth wrote: The Network problem IS exactly what I want to detect! Ward, Martin wrote: Michael, What exactly are you after? If the problem is that HostA cannot ping HostB all the time then this points to a networking issue: Firewall? Dodgy network cable? Too much traffic and too short a time-out? If your Hobbit server can ping both hosts then it's doing its job and there are no problems, with Hobbit at least... |\/|artin -----Original Message----- From: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>] Sent: 14 August 2008 16:40 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Subject: [hobbit] Secondary ping? Heres the problem my hobbit server can ping HostA and HostB but SOMETIMES HostA and HostB cannot ping each other . Besides a client side script, anyone think of a way to do this and take advantage of hobbit functionality. BBNET? route ? something else? ************************************************************************************* The message is intended for the named addressee only and may not be disclosed to or used by anyone else, nor may it be copied in any way. The contents of this message and its attachments are confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the named addressee and/or have received this message in error, please advise us by e-mailing user-61c7f445d564@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-61c7f445d564@xymon.invalid> and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies. Internet communications are not secure and COLT does not accept responsibility for this message, its contents nor responsibility for any viruses. No contracts can be created or varied on behalf of COLT Telecommunications, its subsidiaries or affiliates ("COLT") and any other party by email Communications unless expressly agreed in writing with such other party. Please note that incoming emails will be automatically scanned to eliminate potential viruses and unsolicited promotional emails. For more information refer to www.colt.net <http://www.colt.net>; or contact us on +44(0)20 7390 3900.