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Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when a dial-up device connects?

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list Tom Kauffman · Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:51:47 -0500 ·
We have a number of manufacturing and warehouse sites that do bar-code
scanning with rf 'guns'. We've been through a cycle of equipment
upgrades and swapouts, and I now have about a dozen new rf access points
configured in hobbit that are still in the box and not hooked up.

I've currently configured them as 'dialup', so we don't get pestered by
alerts. But I'd like to know when they actually get installed, so I can
drop the 'dialup' tag. Is there a way to do it?

We don't currently use the 'NK' pages -- I'm tempted to put these
devices, with the 'conn' test, on the NK page and just check it from
time to time. Is there a better way?

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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list Thomas Pedersen · Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:07:31 +0100 ·
Use the DOWNTIME tag for this. This preventes the alert from being generated but you still trend the conn access.
quoted from Tom Kauffman

Kauffman, Tom wrote:
We have a number of manufacturing and warehouse sites that do bar-code
scanning with rf 'guns'. We've been through a cycle of equipment
upgrades and swapouts, and I now have about a dozen new rf access points
configured in hobbit that are still in the box and not hooked up.

I've currently configured them as 'dialup', so we don't get pestered by
alerts. But I'd like to know when they actually get installed, so I can
drop the 'dialup' tag. Is there a way to do it?

We don't currently use the 'NK' pages -- I'm tempted to put these
devices, with the 'conn' test, on the NK page and just check it from
time to time. Is there a better way?

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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list Tom Kauffman · Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:38:21 -0500 ·
The problem I've got is that we configure the access points here, then
ship them to the remote sites for install. They're down until the guys
at the remote site get around to unpacking them, renting a scissor lift,
and installing them up in the rafters. Once they're plugged in, they're
live and a connectivity failure is a problem. I need to see them go
green when they get plugged in and change the config so we'll be
notified on an outage.

And it looks like my idea of the NK page won't work, either. Back to the
drawing board.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas [mailto:user-97316fb2dd2a@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 6:08 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?
quoted from Thomas Pedersen

Use the DOWNTIME tag for this. This preventes the alert from being 
generated but you still trend the conn access.

Kauffman, Tom wrote:
We have a number of manufacturing and warehouse sites that do bar-code
scanning with rf 'guns'. We've been through a cycle of equipment
upgrades and swapouts, and I now have about a dozen new rf access
points
configured in hobbit that are still in the box and not hooked up.

I've currently configured them as 'dialup', so we don't get pestered
by
alerts. But I'd like to know when they actually get installed, so I
can
drop the 'dialup' tag. Is there a way to do it?

We don't currently use the 'NK' pages -- I'm tempted to put these
devices, with the 'conn' test, on the NK page and just check it from
time to time. Is there a better way?

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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list Greg L Hubbard · Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:45:52 -0600 ·
Can you make them "dialup" and then configure an alert for a "recover"
message?  Then change them to normal?

GLH 
quoted from Tom Kauffman

-----Original Message-----
From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:user-3feba9e60a8b@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:38 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

The problem I've got is that we configure the access points here, then
ship them to the remote sites for install. They're down until the guys
at the remote site get around to unpacking them, renting a scissor lift,
and installing them up in the rafters. Once they're plugged in, they're
live and a connectivity failure is a problem. I need to see them go
green when they get plugged in and change the config so we'll be
notified on an outage.

And it looks like my idea of the NK page won't work, either. Back to the
drawing board.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas [mailto:user-97316fb2dd2a@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 6:08 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

Use the DOWNTIME tag for this. This preventes the alert from being
generated but you still trend the conn access.

Kauffman, Tom wrote:
We have a number of manufacturing and warehouse sites that do bar-code
scanning with rf 'guns'. We've been through a cycle of equipment 
upgrades and swapouts, and I now have about a dozen new rf access
points
configured in hobbit that are still in the box and not hooked up.

I've currently configured them as 'dialup', so we don't get pestered
by
alerts. But I'd like to know when they actually get installed, so I
can
drop the 'dialup' tag. Is there a way to do it?

We don't currently use the 'NK' pages -- I'm tempted to put these 
devices, with the 'conn' test, on the NK page and just check it from 
time to time. Is there a better way?

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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list Craig Whilding · Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:55:20 -0000 ·
That wont work as clear isn't a state to recover from, only purple,
yellow and red I believe. Not sure if this could be changed in the
source somewhere?

Craig
quoted from Greg L Hubbard

-----Original Message-----
From: Hubbard, Greg L [mailto:user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 21 February 2006 15:46
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

Can you make them "dialup" and then configure an alert for a "recover"
message?  Then change them to normal?

GLH 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:user-3feba9e60a8b@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:38 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

The problem I've got is that we configure the access points here, then
ship them to the remote sites for install. They're down until the guys
at the remote site get around to unpacking them, renting a scissor lift,
and installing them up in the rafters. Once they're plugged in, they're
live and a connectivity failure is a problem. I need to see them go
green when they get plugged in and change the config so we'll be
notified on an outage.

And it looks like my idea of the NK page won't work, either. Back to the
drawing board.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas [mailto:user-97316fb2dd2a@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 6:08 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

Use the DOWNTIME tag for this. This preventes the alert from being
generated but you still trend the conn access.

Kauffman, Tom wrote:
We have a number of manufacturing and warehouse sites that do bar-code
scanning with rf 'guns'. We've been through a cycle of equipment 
upgrades and swapouts, and I now have about a dozen new rf access
points
configured in hobbit that are still in the box and not hooked up.

I've currently configured them as 'dialup', so we don't get pestered
by
alerts. But I'd like to know when they actually get installed, so I
can
drop the 'dialup' tag. Is there a way to do it?

We don't currently use the 'NK' pages -- I'm tempted to put these 
devices, with the 'conn' test, on the NK page and just check it from 
time to time. Is there a better way?

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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list Eric van de Meerakker · Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:04:39 +0100 ·
I never tried this, but how about a '!conn' or '!ping' test? Goes red when the network connection succeeds (i.e. first system connect), then you can take action and set it back to normal...
quoted from Craig Whilding

Whilding, Craig wrote:
That wont work as clear isn't a state to recover from, only purple,
yellow and red I believe. Not sure if this could be changed in the
source somewhere?

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: Hubbard, Greg L [mailto:user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid] Sent: 21 February 2006 15:46
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

Can you make them "dialup" and then configure an alert for a "recover"
message?  Then change them to normal?

GLH 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:user-3feba9e60a8b@xymon.invalid] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:38 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

The problem I've got is that we configure the access points here, then
ship them to the remote sites for install. They're down until the guys
at the remote site get around to unpacking them, renting a scissor lift,
and installing them up in the rafters. Once they're plugged in, they're
live and a connectivity failure is a problem. I need to see them go
green when they get plugged in and change the config so we'll be
notified on an outage.

And it looks like my idea of the NK page won't work, either. Back to the
drawing board.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas [mailto:user-97316fb2dd2a@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 6:08 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

Use the DOWNTIME tag for this. This preventes the alert from being
generated but you still trend the conn access.

Kauffman, Tom wrote:
We have a number of manufacturing and warehouse sites that do bar-code
scanning with rf 'guns'. We've been through a cycle of equipment upgrades and swapouts, and I now have about a dozen new rf access
points
configured in hobbit that are still in the box and not hooked up.

I've currently configured them as 'dialup', so we don't get pestered
by
alerts. But I'd like to know when they actually get installed, so I
can
drop the 'dialup' tag. Is there a way to do it?

We don't currently use the 'NK' pages -- I'm tempted to put these devices, with the 'conn' test, on the NK page and just check it from time to time. Is there a better way?

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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list Larry Barber · Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:16:44 -0600 ·
You don't need to change the source, just the OKCOLORS and ALERTCOLORS in
hobbitserver.cfg.

Thanks,
Larry Barber
quoted from Eric van de Meerakker

On 2/21/06, Whilding, Craig <user-9ce31bfa66c3@xymon.invalid> wrote:
That wont work as clear isn't a state to recover from, only purple,
yellow and red I believe. Not sure if this could be changed in the
source somewhere?

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: Hubbard, Greg L [mailto:user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 21 February 2006 15:46
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

Can you make them "dialup" and then configure an alert for a "recover"
message?  Then change them to normal?

GLH

-----Original Message-----
From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:user-3feba9e60a8b@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:38 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

The problem I've got is that we configure the access points here, then
ship them to the remote sites for install. They're down until the guys
at the remote site get around to unpacking them, renting a scissor lift,
and installing them up in the rafters. Once they're plugged in, they're
live and a connectivity failure is a problem. I need to see them go
green when they get plugged in and change the config so we'll be
notified on an outage.

And it looks like my idea of the NK page won't work, either. Back to the
drawing board.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas [mailto:user-97316fb2dd2a@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 6:08 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

Use the DOWNTIME tag for this. This preventes the alert from being
generated but you still trend the conn access.

Kauffman, Tom wrote:
We have a number of manufacturing and warehouse sites that do bar-code
scanning with rf 'guns'. We've been through a cycle of equipment
upgrades and swapouts, and I now have about a dozen new rf access
points
configured in hobbit that are still in the box and not hooked up.

I've currently configured them as 'dialup', so we don't get pestered
by
alerts. But I'd like to know when they actually get installed, so I
can
drop the 'dialup' tag. Is there a way to do it?

We don't currently use the 'NK' pages -- I'm tempted to put these
devices, with the 'conn' test, on the NK page and just check it from
time to time. Is there a better way?

TIA

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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list Henrik Størner · Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:24:06 +0100 ·
quoted from Larry Barber
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:38:21AM -0500, Kauffman, Tom wrote:
The problem I've got is that we configure the access points here, then
ship them to the remote sites for install. They're down until the guys
at the remote site get around to unpacking them, renting a scissor lift,
and installing them up in the rafters. Once they're plugged in, they're
live and a connectivity failure is a problem. I need to see them go
green when they get plugged in and change the config so we'll be
notified on an outage.
So what you're really after is something like "disable them until we
see an OK status".

It's something I've been wanting to implement for a number of reasons;
one of them being that when we have a server that is down, we may not
know for how long the outage will last. But not all of our techs know
how to re-enable a host, or even care about doing it. So it would be 
nice to have them disabled, and automatically enable them when they
start being OK.

It seems fairly simple to implement ... 


Henrik
list Henrik Størner · Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:11:06 +0100 ·
quoted from Henrik Størner
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:24:06PM +0100, Henrik Stoerner wrote:
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:38:21AM -0500, Kauffman, Tom wrote:
The problem I've got is that we configure the access points here, then
ship them to the remote sites for install. They're down until the guys
at the remote site get around to unpacking them, renting a scissor lift,
and installing them up in the rafters. Once they're plugged in, they're
live and a connectivity failure is a problem.
So what you're really after is something like "disable them until we
see an OK status".
[snip]
It seems fairly simple to implement ... 
It's in the next snapshot, although I would caution people against using
this in a production setup. It works for me, but there are still some
things being worked on, and some things that need more testing.


Henrik
list Lars Ebeling · Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:31:46 +0100 ·
I have a server that mostly is down and disabled. I installed todays snapshot, started the server and waited for "conn" going green. But nothing happened.
Did I misunderstand anything?

Lars

----- Original Message ----- From: "Henrik Stoerner" <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid>
To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:11 PM
quoted from Henrik Størner
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when a dial-up device connects?

So what you're really after is something like "disable them until we
see an OK status".
[snip]
It seems fairly simple to implement ...
It's in the next snapshot, although I would caution people against using
this in a production setup. It works for me, but there are still some
things being worked on, and some things that need more testing.


Henrik

list Tom Kauffman · Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:44:39 -0500 ·
Great, thanks! I'm off the next few days doing the Disaster Recovery
drill bit, but I'll grab it next Monday and take a look.

One of the other problems I have with our current setup this will help
with -- we also configure at least one spare access point for a site.
Which means that if they need six, we ship seven. Some of the plant
people fire up the spare in an office and we can see it. Some of the
sites wait until one of the installed systems to break before the open
the box with the spare. And them we've got one site that just seems to
loose the spares . . .

I will say that this kind of support and service far exceeds anything
I've seen in a commercial product for years.

Thanks!

Tom
quoted from Larry Barber

-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:11 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Another odd-ball question -- can I get alerts when
a dial-up device connects?

On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:24:06PM +0100, Henrik Stoerner wrote:
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:38:21AM -0500, Kauffman, Tom wrote:
The problem I've got is that we configure the access points here,
then
ship them to the remote sites for install. They're down until the
guys
at the remote site get around to unpacking them, renting a scissor
lift,
and installing them up in the rafters. Once they're plugged in,
they're
live and a connectivity failure is a problem.
So what you're really after is something like "disable them until we
see an OK status".
[snip]
It seems fairly simple to implement ... 
It's in the next snapshot, although I would caution people against using
this in a production setup. It works for me, but there are still some
things being worked on, and some things that need more testing.


Henrik


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