Solaris ps 🔗 link

Hey,

Is there any reason NOT to use '/usr/ucb/ps auxwww' in place of the ps that hobbit-sunos.sh is using?...in other words, will it break anything if I use it (yes, I know I need to run it as root to get everything)?   I prefer the output of what Henrik provides but the solaris ps is braindead (truncates at 80 characters).

lars ebeling wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Galen Johnson" <user-d2ff723b6cb6@xymon.invalid>
To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 3:27 AM
Subject: [hobbit] Solaris ps

Hey,

Is there any reason NOT to use '/usr/ucb/ps auxwww' in place of the ps that hobbit-sunos.sh is using?...in other words, will it break anything if I use it (yes, I know I need to run it as root to get everything)?   I prefer the output of what Henrik provides but the solaris ps is braindead (truncates at 80 characters).

Solaris 10 on x86 is not braindead, ie does not truncate after 80 characters.

Lars

On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 06:22:52PM -0500, Galen Johnson wrote:

Is there any reason NOT to use '/usr/ucb/ps auxwww' in place of the >>ps that hobbit-sunos.sh is using?...in other words, will it break >>anything if I use it (yes, I know I need to run it as root to get >>everything)?   I prefer the output of what Henrik provides but the >>solaris ps is braindead (truncates at 80 characters).

Yeah, but all of our systems are SPARC...which does...even with Solaris 10.   Question stands...is there a reason not to? (other than upgrading, will it affect any of hobbit's builtin functionality?)

Henrik Stoerner wrote:

On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 06:22:52PM -0500, Galen Johnson wrote:
  

Is there any reason NOT to use '/usr/ucb/ps auxwww' in place of the ps that hobbit-sunos.sh is using?...in other words, will it break anything if I use it (yes, I know I need to run it as root to get everything)?   I prefer the output of what Henrik provides but the solaris ps is braindead (truncates at 80 characters).
        

Yeah, but all of our systems are SPARC...which does...even with Solaris 10.   Question stands...is there a reason not to? (other than upgrading, will it affect any of hobbit's builtin functionality?)
    

If you look at the hobbitclient-sunos.sh script that runs on the
clients, you'll see that it currently runs
  ps -A -o pid,ppid,user,stime,s,pri,pcpu,time,pmem,rss,vsz,args

If you can come up with a /usr/ucb/ps command that provides the same information - hopefully using almost the same column headers - then
I have no problem in switching.

Right now, Hobbit only looks at the command line from the "ps" listing,
but I do have a plan to make it track the memory- and cpu-utilisation of
processes; and for that Hobbit must be able to identify the
corresponding columns in the "ps" output. But that's in the future.
  

Galen Johnson wrote:

Henrik Stoerner wrote:

On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 06:22:52PM -0500, Galen Johnson wrote:
 

Is there any reason NOT to use '/usr/ucb/ps auxwww' in place of the ps that hobbit-sunos.sh is using?...in other words, will it break anything if I use it (yes, I know I need to run it as root to get everything)?   I prefer the output of what Henrik provides but the solaris ps is braindead (truncates at 80 characters).
        

Yeah, but all of our systems are SPARC...which does...even with Solaris 10.   Question stands...is there a reason not to? (other than upgrading, will it affect any of hobbit's builtin functionality?)
    

If you look at the hobbitclient-sunos.sh script that runs on the
clients, you'll see that it currently runs
  ps -A -o pid,ppid,user,stime,s,pri,pcpu,time,pmem,rss,vsz,args

If you can come up with a /usr/ucb/ps command that provides the same information - hopefully using almost the same column headers - then
I have no problem in switching.

Right now, Hobbit only looks at the command line from the "ps" listing,
but I do have a plan to make it track the memory- and cpu-utilisation of
processes; and for that Hobbit must be able to identify the
corresponding columns in the "ps" output. But that's in the future.
  

Thanks...I looked into trying just that.  I can get using options 'auxwww' gets me a lot of the fields and I can get others with 'alxwww'...unfortunately, the 'l' and 'u' options appear to be mutually exclusive...which is annoying.  'auxwww' does give you some memory and cpu info (I _think_ it's the same as the pcpu and pmem).  I wouldn't necessarily suggest this as a permanent change but I need it to get more information from the command line.

I can work up the changes to provide both as an option (it does require that the -o args be rearranged since the output of /usr/ucb/ps isn't configurable).

=G=

-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-d2ff723b6cb6@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 February 2007 03:43
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Solaris ps

Galen Johnson wrote:

Henrik Stoerner wrote:

On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 06:22:52PM -0500, Galen Johnson wrote:
 

Is there any reason NOT to use '/usr/ucb/ps auxwww' in place of the ps that hobbit-sunos.sh is using?...in other words, will it break anything if I use it (yes, I know I need to run it as root to get everything)?   I prefer the output of what Henrik provides but the solaris ps is braindead (truncates at 80 characters).
        

Yeah, but all of our systems are SPARC...which does...even with Solaris 10.   Question stands...is there a reason not to? (other than upgrading, will it affect any of hobbit's builtin
functionality?)
    

If you look at the hobbitclient-sunos.sh script that runs on the
clients, you'll see that it currently runs
  ps -A -o pid,ppid,user,stime,s,pri,pcpu,time,pmem,rss,vsz,args

If you can come up with a /usr/ucb/ps command that provides the same information - hopefully using almost the same column headers - then
I have no problem in switching.

Right now, Hobbit only looks at the command line from the "ps"
listing,
but I do have a plan to make it track the memory- and cpu-utilisation
of
processes; and for that Hobbit must be able to identify the
corresponding columns in the "ps" output. But that's in the future.
  

Thanks...I looked into trying just that.  I can get using options 'auxwww' gets me a lot of the fields and I can get others with 'alxwww'...unfortunately, the 'l' and 'u' options appear to be mutually exclusive...which is annoying.  'auxwww' does give you some memory and cpu info (I _think_ it's the same as the pcpu and pmem).  I

wouldn't necessarily suggest this as a permanent change but I need it to get more information from the command line.

I can work up the changes to provide both as an option (it does require that the -o args be rearranged since the output of /usr/ucb/ps

isn't configurable).

=G=

These two commands are equivalent...

/usr/ucb/ps auxwww

USER       PID %CPU %MEM   SZ  RSS TT       S    START  TIME COMMAND

/usr/bin/ps -A -o user,pid,pcpu,pmem,vsz,rss,tty,s,stime,time,args

    USER   PID %CPU %MEM  VSZ  RSS TT      S    STIME        TIME
COMMAND

I've verified that SZ and VSZ are the same by comparing output...however, there is a bit of a shortcoming with the berkeley ps...it runs %MEM, SZ and RSS together.  It looks like the percent memory is consistently 3 chars wide (%1.1f)...I wish I could say the same about SZ and RSS...

=G=

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rowell [mailto:user-63f3e97eb1de@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 09:45
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Solaris ps

I've monitored this discussion with considerable interest, one thing
that some people may not be aware of, is that over 2GB of memory size,
/usr/ucb/ps will corrupt the process list (i.e. it's not largefile
aware).

Now for the majority this will not be an issue, however on the majority
of my production systems we run java processes with a memory size of
about 4GB.  We also run Databases with inexcess of 10GB resident memory
size.

Regards,

Mike Rowell

-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-d2ff723b6cb6@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 February 2007 03:43
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Solaris ps

Galen Johnson wrote:

Henrik Stoerner wrote:

On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 06:22:52PM -0500, Galen Johnson wrote:

Is there any reason NOT to use '/usr/ucb/ps auxwww' in place of >>>>> the ps that hobbit-sunos.sh is using?...in other words, will it >>>>> break anything if I use it (yes, I know I need to run it as root >>>>> to get everything)?   I prefer the output of what Henrik provides >>>>> but the solaris ps is braindead (truncates at 80 characters).

Yeah, but all of our systems are SPARC...which does...even with >>> Solaris 10.   Question stands...is there a reason not to? (other >>> than upgrading, will it affect any of hobbit's builtin
functionality?)

If you look at the hobbitclient-sunos.sh script that runs on the
clients, you'll see that it currently runs
  ps -A -o pid,ppid,user,stime,s,pri,pcpu,time,pmem,rss,vsz,args

If you can come up with a /usr/ucb/ps command that provides the same >> information - hopefully using almost the same column headers - then
I have no problem in switching.

Right now, Hobbit only looks at the command line from the "ps"
listing,
but I do have a plan to make it track the memory- and cpu-utilisation
of
processes; and for that Hobbit must be able to identify the
corresponding columns in the "ps" output. But that's in the future.

Thanks...I looked into trying just that.  I can get using options > 'auxwww' gets me a lot of the fields and I can get others with > 'alxwww'...unfortunately, the 'l' and 'u' options appear to be > mutually exclusive...which is annoying.  'auxwww' does give you some > memory and cpu info (I _think_ it's the same as the pcpu and pmem).  I

wouldn't necessarily suggest this as a permanent change but I need it > to get more information from the command line.

I can work up the changes to provide both as an option (it does > require that the -o args be rearranged since the output of /usr/ucb/ps

isn't configurable).

=G=

These two commands are equivalent...

/usr/ucb/ps auxwww

USER       PID %CPU %MEM   SZ  RSS TT       S    START  TIME COMMAND

/usr/bin/ps -A -o user,pid,pcpu,pmem,vsz,rss,tty,s,stime,time,args

    USER   PID %CPU %MEM  VSZ  RSS TT      S    STIME        TIME
COMMAND

I've verified that SZ and VSZ are the same by comparing output...however, there is a bit of a shortcoming with the berkeley ps...it runs %MEM, SZ and RSS together.  It looks like the percent memory is consistently 3 chars wide (%1.1f)...I wish I could say the same about SZ and RSS...

=G=


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Regards,

Mike Rowell

-----Original Message-----
From: Gore, David W (David) [mailto:user-3e5761c68b56@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 February 2007 15:20
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Solaris ps

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rowell [mailto:user-63f3e97eb1de@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 09:45
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Solaris ps

I've monitored this discussion with considerable interest, one thing
that some people may not be aware of, is that over 2GB of memory size,
/usr/ucb/ps will corrupt the process list (i.e. it's not largefile
aware).

Now for the majority this will not be an issue, however on the majority
of my production systems we run java processes with a memory size of
about 4GB.  We also run Databases with inexcess of 10GB resident memory
size.

Regards,

Mike Rowell

Mike, you must have short java process names or you do not need to
extract any identifying process name info past 80 characters then?  Java
processes names are exactly why we have wanted /usr/ucb/ps for many
months.  Almost all of our hobbit clients have to be updated to use
/usr/ucb/ps.  
I also use a PERL script to extract CPU and memory info for these same
processes using /usr/ucb/ps.  We have also had to preface /usr/ucb/ps
with sudo to accommodate Solaris 10 and Solaris 8 hosts with the latest
patches. 
We have something that works now, so it's no big deal.  Having a new
built-in feature that tracks CPU and memory would be nice, but I am
expecting it to use the current ps.  So it will be of limited use to us,
unless it can track super long java process names.

~David

-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:user-d2ff723b6cb6@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 February 2007 03:43
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Solaris ps

Galen Johnson wrote:

Henrik Stoerner wrote:

On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 06:22:52PM -0500, Galen Johnson wrote:

Is there any reason NOT to use '/usr/ucb/ps auxwww' in place of >>>>> the ps that hobbit-sunos.sh is using?...in other words, will it >>>>> break anything if I use it (yes, I know I need to run it as root >>>>> to get everything)?   I prefer the output of what Henrik provides >>>>> but the solaris ps is braindead (truncates at 80 characters).

Yeah, but all of our systems are SPARC...which does...even with >>> Solaris 10.   Question stands...is there a reason not to? (other >>> than upgrading, will it affect any of hobbit's builtin
functionality?)

If you look at the hobbitclient-sunos.sh script that runs on the
clients, you'll see that it currently runs
  ps -A -o pid,ppid,user,stime,s,pri,pcpu,time,pmem,rss,vsz,args

If you can come up with a /usr/ucb/ps command that provides the same >> information - hopefully using almost the same column headers - then
I have no problem in switching.

Right now, Hobbit only looks at the command line from the "ps"
listing,
but I do have a plan to make it track the memory- and cpu-utilisation
of
processes; and for that Hobbit must be able to identify the
corresponding columns in the "ps" output. But that's in the future.

Thanks...I looked into trying just that.  I can get using options > 'auxwww' gets me a lot of the fields and I can get others with > 'alxwww'...unfortunately, the 'l' and 'u' options appear to be > mutually exclusive...which is annoying.  'auxwww' does give you some > memory and cpu info (I _think_ it's the same as the pcpu and pmem).  I

wouldn't necessarily suggest this as a permanent change but I need it > to get more information from the command line.

I can work up the changes to provide both as an option (it does > require that the -o args be rearranged since the output of /usr/ucb/ps

isn't configurable).

=G=

These two commands are equivalent...

/usr/ucb/ps auxwww

USER       PID %CPU %MEM   SZ  RSS TT       S    START  TIME COMMAND

/usr/bin/ps -A -o user,pid,pcpu,pmem,vsz,rss,tty,s,stime,time,args

    USER   PID %CPU %MEM  VSZ  RSS TT      S    STIME        TIME
COMMAND

I've verified that SZ and VSZ are the same by comparing output...however, there is a bit of a shortcoming with the berkeley ps...it runs %MEM, SZ and RSS together.  It looks like the percent memory is consistently 3 chars wide (%1.1f)...I wish I could say the same about SZ and RSS...

=G=


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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:15:56 -0500, Michael A. Price wrote

Hello,

Has anyone been able to install the hobbit client onto nokia firewalls??

I tried with little success, the OS is stripped down to much.

Although I do have it runnning on Checkpoint SPLAT OS.

thanks, michael

Michael A. Price
Performance Network Engineering
NASA/GSFC Code 440.8/LMB
Greenbelt, Maryland 20770
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On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 04:40:45PM +0100, Beau Olivier wrote:

I'ld like to change the default period for graph display: by default hobbbit displays trends with 4 graphs (48h,12d,48d,576d
periods)
-> It is possible change it to 48h,7d,30d,365d for example ?

 
----- Original Message -----
From: user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid>
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Tue Mar 06 10:45:59 2007
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Changing the default 48h,12d,48d,576d period for graph display ?

On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 04:40:45PM +0100, Beau Olivier wrote:

I'ld like to change the default period for graph display: by default hobbbit displays trends with 4 graphs (48h,12d,48d,576d
periods)
-> It is possible change it to 48h,7d,30d,365d for example ?

It isn't configurable, but in the hobbit-4.2.0/web/hobbitgraph.c file near the top of the file you'll find these lines:

  #define HOUR_GRAPH  "e-48h"
  #define DAY_GRAPH   "e-12d"
  #define WEEK_GRAPH  "e-48d"
  #define MONTH_GRAPH "e-576d"

Change them to suit you. Then search that same file for the HOUR_GRAPH
etc. further down; you'll find 1 place where each is used like this:

  period = HOUR_GRAPH;
  persecs = 48*60*60;

and you need to change that "persecs" calculation also for all 4 graph
types.

Then run "make" (from the hobbit-4.2.0 directory) and "make install" (or just copy the "web/hobbitgraph.cgi" file to your ~hobbit/server/bin/ directory).


Henrik

 

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid] 
Envoyé : mardi 6 mars 2007 16:46
À : user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Objet : Re: [hobbit] Changing the default 48h,12d,48d,576d period for graph display ?

On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 04:40:45PM +0100, Beau Olivier wrote:

I'ld like to change the default period for graph display: 
by default hobbbit displays trends with 4 graphs (48h,12d,48d,576d
periods)
-> It is possible change it to 48h,7d,30d,365d for example ?

It isn't configurable, but in the hobbit-4.2.0/web/hobbitgraph.c file near the top of the file you'll find these lines:

  #define HOUR_GRAPH  "e-48h"
  #define DAY_GRAPH   "e-12d"
  #define WEEK_GRAPH  "e-48d"
  #define MONTH_GRAPH "e-576d"

Change them to suit you. Then search that same file for the HOUR_GRAPH etc. further down; you'll find 1 place where each is used like this:

  period = HOUR_GRAPH;
  persecs = 48*60*60;

and you need to change that "persecs" calculation also for all 4 graph types.

Then run "make" (from the hobbit-4.2.0 directory) and "make install" 
(or just copy the "web/hobbitgraph.cgi" file to your ~hobbit/server/bin/ directory).


Henrik