Hobbit renaming status ?
list T.J. Yang
Can't wait until decision made by Henrik. I am betting the new name will be hobbitmon. Thus I am using hobbitmon in my current development work. but would it be HobbitMon or hobbitmon ? tj
list Joe Sloan
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T.J. Yang wrote:
Can't wait until decision made by Henrik. I am betting the new name will be hobbitmon. Thus I am using hobbitmon in my current development work. but would it be HobbitMon or hobbitmon ?
"hobbitmon" seems more true to the unix roots of hobbit. StudlyCaps is something I've only seen from visual basic programmers and their ilk. ;) Joe
list Henrik Størner
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In <user-e9c94d642e42@xymon.invalid> "T.J. Yang" <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> writes:
Can't wait until decision made by Henrik. I am betting the new name will be hobbitmon. Thus I am using hobbitmon in my current development work. but would it be HobbitMon or hobbitmon ?
Don't bet on it.
I've been going over the various suggestions this past week, and I've
setup a few loose criteria for judging the names. In no particular
order:
*) No references to Tolkien characters. Although I might be able to
get away with "hobbitmon" or Gandalfr (thanks, Anna - didn't know
those names came from the Edda), I do not want to push my luck
any further.
*) Likewise, no names that might infringe on existing characters from
movies, books etc.
*) Nothing that is trademark'ed.
*) The name should be somewhat meaningful. Not necessarily obvious,
but enough that it is understandable. Also, somewhat "business-
like". (Sorry Vernon - I enjoyed Your ventures into Mesopotamian
astronomy and egyptology, since those are also hobby-interests
of mine, but very few would know who "Horus" is, or what was
the role of Aldebaran).
*) The name should be short. Preferably two or three syllables, and
fit into the space currently on the webpages where it says "Hobbit"
now. This is because the name is frequently used in speech; I often
have people at work asking me "what's on Hobbit right now?" if they
need to know what issues there are currently. It just wouldn't feel
right if that was "what's on smart-and-open-systems-monitor right
now" ...
*) .com, .net and .org should preferably be available.
Of the suggestions I've seen on the list, there are only a few that fit
these criteria: savemon, hobmon, Tibboh (not obvious, but I like it),
OpenGuardian.
Of those, OpenGuardian is my current favourite - enough so that I've
registered the openguardian.com and openguardian.eu domains. It does
have something against it, though: OpenGuardian is a component of a
product called "HostGuardian", which is described on hostguardian.com:
"HostGuardian offers a complete set of monitoring tools that
verify not only a machine on the internet is responding,
but that it is delivering the correct content, replying to
processes, and connected without latency or packet loss."
This is similar enough to what Hobbit does that using the name for
Hobbit could be a problem. It isn't trademarked, according to the USPTO
trademark website, but there's a potential for conflict.
I have two other names that I've come up with. The first is "G-Lance"
meaning "viGiLance", "monitoring at a G-Lance", and the 'G' could also
mean GNU, GPL, Gratis etc. g-lance.com is registered to someone doing
graphics free-lance work, but I've grabbed .net, .org and .eu.
I won't tell you the second one yet. The domain is currently registered
by someone else, but appears to be completely inactive. It expires on
Friday (Aug. 15th), and if it becomes available I'll take it.
So stay tuned ...
Regards,
Henrik
list Lars Ebeling
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"> I have two other names that I've come up with. The first is "G-Lance"
meaning "viGiLance", "monitoring at a G-Lance", and the 'G' could also mean GNU, GPL, Gratis etc. g-lance.com is registered to someone doing graphics free-lance work, but I've grabbed .net, .org and .eu.
HP has a product for monitoring name Glanceplus. Lars -- Regards Lars Ebeling http://leopg9.no-ip.org Hobbithobbyist "I am not young enough to know everything." -- Oscar Wilde
list Josh Luthman
I like hobmon as it is easy to trigger the memories of Hobbit but OpenGuardian is really good too. Just so you know if it expires on August 15 typically the person who registered the domain is given 45 days to register it again. It will become available to everyone else on September 30. Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Lars Ebeling
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<user-1fecd3eafd52@xymon.invalid>wrote:
"> I have two other names that I've come up with. The first is "G-Lance"meaning "viGiLance", "monitoring at a G-Lance", and the 'G' could also mean GNU, GPL, Gratis etc. g-lance.com is registered to someone doing graphics free-lance work, but I've grabbed .net, .org and .eu.HP has a product for monitoring name Glanceplus. Lars -- Regards Lars Ebeling http://leopg9.no-ip.org Hobbithobbyist "I am not young enough to know everything." -- Oscar Wilde
list Ulric Eriksson
OpenGuardian is apparently the name of a commercial product. http://hostguardian.com/index.php?url_channel_id=3&url_publish_channel_id=6&url_subchannel_id=&well_id=2 8<--- OpenGuardian: OpenGuardian allows you to take monitoring to the next level. Point OpenGuardian to any CGI script that reports a value, and OpenGuardian will check that value against thresholds that you configure in the toolset. You can specify either a minimum value, maximum value, or both. This allows you to monitor anything. Mail queues, hard drive usage, CPU utiliziation. The possibilities are endless. 8<--- Ulric
list Joe Sloan
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Henrik Stoerner wrote:
I have two other names that I've come up with. The first is "G-Lance" meaning "viGiLance", "monitoring at a G-Lance", and the 'G' could also mean GNU, GPL, Gratis etc. g-lance.com is registered to someone doing graphics free-lance work, but I've grabbed .net, .org and .eu.
Sounds like a potential for confusion with Glance, the HP monitoring product. Joe
list Bruce White
Henrik, Glance is a product for HPUX monitoring which is produced (and I assume trademarked by HP). They might find G-Lance a bit to close for comfort. ....Bruce
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-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:39 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit renaming status ?
In <user-e9c94d642e42@xymon.invalid> "T.J. Yang"
<user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> writes:
Can't wait until decision made by Henrik. I am betting the new name will be hobbitmon. Thus I am using hobbitmon in my current development work. but would it be HobbitMon or hobbitmon ?
Don't bet on it.
I've been going over the various suggestions this past week, and I've setup
a few loose criteria for judging the names. In no particular
order:
*) No references to Tolkien characters. Although I might be able to
get away with "hobbitmon" or Gandalfr (thanks, Anna - didn't know
those names came from the Edda), I do not want to push my luck
any further.
*) Likewise, no names that might infringe on existing characters from
movies, books etc.
*) Nothing that is trademark'ed.
*) The name should be somewhat meaningful. Not necessarily obvious,
but enough that it is understandable. Also, somewhat "business-
like". (Sorry Vernon - I enjoyed Your ventures into Mesopotamian
astronomy and egyptology, since those are also hobby-interests
of mine, but very few would know who "Horus" is, or what was
the role of Aldebaran).
*) The name should be short. Preferably two or three syllables, and
fit into the space currently on the webpages where it says "Hobbit"
now. This is because the name is frequently used in speech; I often
have people at work asking me "what's on Hobbit right now?" if they
need to know what issues there are currently. It just wouldn't feel
right if that was "what's on smart-and-open-systems-monitor right
now" ...
*) .com, .net and .org should preferably be available.
Of the suggestions I've seen on the list, there are only a few that fit
these criteria: savemon, hobmon, Tibboh (not obvious, but I like it),
OpenGuardian.
Of those, OpenGuardian is my current favourite - enough so that I've
registered the openguardian.com and openguardian.eu domains. It does have
something against it, though: OpenGuardian is a component of a product
called "HostGuardian", which is described on hostguardian.com:
"HostGuardian offers a complete set of monitoring tools that
verify not only a machine on the internet is responding,
but that it is delivering the correct content, replying to
processes, and connected without latency or packet loss."
This is similar enough to what Hobbit does that using the name for Hobbit
could be a problem. It isn't trademarked, according to the USPTO trademark
website, but there's a potential for conflict.
I have two other names that I've come up with. The first is "G-Lance"
meaning "viGiLance", "monitoring at a G-Lance", and the 'G' could also
mean GNU, GPL, Gratis etc. g-lance.com is registered to someone doing
graphics free-lance work, but I've grabbed .net, .org and .eu.
I won't tell you the second one yet. The domain is currently registered
by someone else, but appears to be completely inactive. It expires on
Friday (Aug. 15th), and if it becomes available I'll take it.
So stay tuned ...
Regards,
Henrik
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list Marco Avvisano
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From: "White, Bruce" <user-58f975e8bf9d@xymon.invalid>
To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit renaming status ?
Henrik, Glance is a product for HPUX monitoring which is produced (and I assume trademarked by HP). They might find G-Lance a bit to close for comfort. ....Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:39 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit renaming status ? In <user-e9c94d642e42@xymon.invalid> "T.J. Yang" <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> writes:Can't wait until decision made by Henrik. I am betting the new name will be hobbitmon. Thus I am using hobbitmon in my current development work. but would it be HobbitMon or hobbitmon ?Don't bet on it. I've been going over the various suggestions this past week, and I've setup a few loose criteria for judging the names. In no particular order: *) No references to Tolkien characters. Although I might be able to get away with "hobbitmon" or Gandalfr (thanks, Anna - didn't know those names came from the Edda), I do not want to push my luck any further. *) Likewise, no names that might infringe on existing characters from movies, books etc. *) Nothing that is trademark'ed. *) The name should be somewhat meaningful. Not necessarily obvious, but enough that it is understandable. Also, somewhat "business- like". (Sorry Vernon - I enjoyed Your ventures into Mesopotamian astronomy and egyptology, since those are also hobby-interests of mine, but very few would know who "Horus" is, or what was the role of Aldebaran). *) The name should be short. Preferably two or three syllables, and fit into the space currently on the webpages where it says "Hobbit" now. This is because the name is frequently used in speech; I often have people at work asking me "what's on Hobbit right now?" if they need to know what issues there are currently. It just wouldn't feel right if that was "what's on smart-and-open-systems-monitor right now" ... *) .com, .net and .org should preferably be available. Of the suggestions I've seen on the list, there are only a few that fit these criteria: savemon, hobmon, Tibboh (not obvious, but I like it), OpenGuardian. Of those, OpenGuardian is my current favourite - enough so that I've registered the openguardian.com and openguardian.eu domains. It does have something against it, though: OpenGuardian is a component of a product called "HostGuardian", which is described on hostguardian.com: "HostGuardian offers a complete set of monitoring tools that verify not only a machine on the internet is responding, but that it is delivering the correct content, replying to processes, and connected without latency or packet loss." This is similar enough to what Hobbit does that using the name for Hobbit could be a problem. It isn't trademarked, according to the USPTO trademark website, but there's a potential for conflict. I have two other names that I've come up with. The first is "G-Lance" meaning "viGiLance", "monitoring at a G-Lance", and the 'G' could also mean GNU, GPL, Gratis etc. g-lance.com is registered to someone doing graphics free-lance work, but I've grabbed .net, .org and .eu. I won't tell you the second one yet. The domain is currently registered by someone else, but appears to be completely inactive. It expires on Friday (Aug. 15th), and if it becomes available I'll take it. So stay tuned ... Regards, Henrik Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Fellowes, Inc.