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Questions about migrating from BB

list Josh Luthman
Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:00:19 -0400
Message-Id: <user-80b3cc8b53c8@xymon.invalid>

If you want the clients to send their data to the server you need to specify
(for Hobbit clients)

BBDISP="74.218.88.184"             # IP address of the Hobbit server
BBDISPLAYS=""                   # IP of multiple Hobbit servers. BBDISP must
be "0.0.0.0".

/home/hobbitman/client/etc/hobbitclient.cfg

For bbclients (I have no experience with them myself) you simply switch from
the old to the new address.

Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
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Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Ryan Novosielski <user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid>wrote:
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Yeah, I took a look at that before writing. There's nothing missing that
I can see that refers to anything like that. Only think I can think of
is that the client piece may not be using the same hostname as my
machine. I don't know what xymon does in cases where one is using FQDN
and one isn't. My bb-hosts line is:

130.219.34.102  xymon.umdnj.edu # BBDISPLAY bbd ssh !telnet !ftp

So I'm only missing some extraneous stuff, if I compare it to their
line. I don't think the CLIENT piece is strictly required. I guess I
will re-read the man page for bb-hosts.

Josh Luthman wrote:
Compare the first host voodoo.hswn.dk <http://voodoo.hswn.dk>;:
http://xymon.com/hobbit/servers/servers.html

With it's bb-host here:
http://xymon.com/hobbit-cgi/viewconf.sh

I think that answers your question.  Let me know if otherwise.

Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Ryan Novosielski <user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid
<mailto:user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

One, possibly last, question:

In the process of migrating my bb-hosts file from BigBrother to xymon
and duplicating my current BB setup, it appears as if I managed to lose
the tests for bbgen, bbtest, hobbitd... maybe another as well. I can't
figure out what it is that causes these tests to show up, as I do not
believe they were spelled out in the default bb-hosts file. Can anyone
point me to either some good docs on that or an answer?

Currently, on the "BBDISPLAY" machine I have bbnet and bbretest
disabled. However, stats for these processes do not show up on the
"BBNET" machines either (sorry to use BB terminology but it does not
appear that xymon has any term to make the description easy). The BBNET
machines have hobbitd, bbhistory, bbpage, rrdstatus, rrddata,
clientdata, and bbdisplay disabled.

Thanks for any help!

Ryan Novosielski wrote:
Apparently not. :-\
Checking for RRDtool ...
RRDtool include- or library-files not found. These are REQUIRED
for hobbitd
RRDtool can be found at
http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/<http://people.ee.ethz.ch/%7Eoetiker/webtools/rrdtool/>;
<http://people.ee.ethz.ch/%7Eoetiker/webtools/rrdtool/>;
If you have RRDtool installed, use the "--rrdinclude DIR" and
"--rrdlib DIR"
options to configure to specify where they are.
I guess no big deal.
Josh Luthman wrote:
From memory..few years of dust on that...
After you do a ./configure.server it will ask about RRDtool if it
can't
be found - I would imagine if you just leave it blank it would
skip over
the RRDtool parts.  Also, like you said, ./configure.server
--help may
answer that better.
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Ryan Novosielski
<user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid>
<mailto:user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid>>> wrote:
Josh Luthman wrote:
Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
display,
or is it also needed by a machine that only does network testing? It
looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
I can
use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
host, not by test. Any recommendations?
When you say "machines" you're saying it plural - you'll only
have to
install it on the bbdisplay (what server you query for WWW
pages).  If
you don't want rrdtool you won't have graphs - when you do the
configure
just say you don't have rrdtool.  The bbproxy/net machines have no
need
for rrdtool.  Graphs aren't crucial but they can most certainly
help in
several cases.
Yes, I have two network test machines that do not run the display --
these were that I was talking about. I already have rrdtool on the
display machine and the graphs work. I did not know there was a
way to
say that I don't have rrdtool. I'll look through configure, I
suppose,
but I didn't see anything like "--without-rrdtool" as is often
present
in other software.
I know some people have issues using NET: but you might want to read
through the archives.  From my understanding, it is by host not
test as
well.
Thanks, I'll hunt around.
Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is
in BB? I
wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
(Escalation is
that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
from
reaching the escalated party, except that person).
Maybe look at the critical list of hosts -
http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2007/03/msg00315.html
Thanks.
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ryan Novosielski
<user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid>
<mailto:user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid>>>> wrote:
Good afternoon,
I am new to this list and probably will be new to xymon shortly. I
have
currently installed it and am testing it out.
My current BB system consists of a BBDISPLAY machine, and two BBNET
machines. The two BBNET machines are on either sides of a
firewall and
are housed on two different Solaris 10 zones.
I /think/ I know how to set this up, but there are some aspects
of it
that look like they might be irritating if there's no good answer
for them:
First off, my BBDISPLAY does no network monitoring. This looks as
simple
as setting DISABLE on the appropriate part of hobbitlaunch.cfg, so
this
seems pretty easy.
Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
display,
or is it also needed by a machine that only does network testing? It
looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
I can
use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
host, not by test. Any recommendations?
Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is in
BB? I
wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
(Escalation is
that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
from
reaching the escalated party, except that person).

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