Xymon Logo ?

I think there's a certain amount of "who can we sue if it breaks"
mentality.  If a company contracts to pay $$$$ for a product, that gives
them a big stick to beat the supplier with in the event that something goes
wrong, to either fix the product or get their money back.  If the product is
free, worked on by a couple of guys in their spare time, there's no contract
and no comeback if it breaks.

Ralph Mitchell


On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Galen Johnson <user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid>wrote:

 That's a bit of a fallacious argument.  How does a commercial product
make that different?  If a solution is useful, regardless of whether it is
commercial or free (or "better than free"), the knowledge base is
available...if anything, it's better since we know what the code looks like
and (if so inclined) are able to fix the shortcomings ourselves.


=G=


*From:* T.J. Yang [mailto:user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 10, 2008 1:01 PM
*To:* hobbit system monitoring

*Subject:* RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?


This is a off topic of xymon logo.

But this bring up another issue/concern of mine(as an Unix admin) twoward
Xymon.

"Not able to pay for Xymon for support service from a company"

This is feedback/comment I got from mangement (of mine).

Trying to understand why, from their perspective and I think I got the
answer as following.

Management want to avoid the lock-in from admin also. They want your
in-depth knowledge
of the tool become a serivce that management can  get from other sources,
not just in-house admins.


tj yang


From: user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:41:41 -0500
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?

 That's always been one of the things I've never understood about
companies...they don't think they are getting worthwhile software unless
they pay through the nose for it.  Trust you admins and let them decide if
it's worthwhile.  They're the ones that will be using it day to day.  I'll
be the first to admit that there are some FOSS projects that aren't worth
what you pay or them but they either get forked by people who care to make
it better or they disappear altogether.


=G=


*From:* michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 10, 2008 12:26 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?


Yes ! Y our barely ok,  Corporate type hate "cute" logos./icons  and the'
re distrustful enough when not
ask to pay $1000s for a product.

|I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer.
|I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also.
T.J. Yang wrote:

Agree, no rush but I hope this task should be going on at lesser priority.

see xym.jpg in this attached email(it is only 16KB) so I think it is ok to
be sent via this email.
I don't know engough about GIMP yet. I hope the "X" has four hobbit colors
in the devided four sections.
let me know if you want the xym.xcf gimp file to continue the work.

I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer.
I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also.

Regards

T.J. Yang


From: user-9da1a1882f49@xymon.invalid
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:55:09 +0900
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?

I agree.

Let's not rush into this.

Remember, we live in a world where lawyers prowl, and they will sue you,
simply because your logo looks a little bit like theirs, or uses the same
colours as theirs, or makes people crap the same colour as their logo does.

Hobbit worked fine for years without a logo, as did Linux, and many other
products out there.


I am not saying we need to wait years before we come up with a logo, I just
don't believe we need to rush into this.

Sometimes, when something doesn't need to be done, it is important that it
isn't done.


Regards

    Vernon


*From:* Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid<user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid>]

*Sent:* Monday, 10 November 2008 11:41 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?

Uh, let's not go with something else that might be copyrighted...  :)

Ralph Mitchell

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Kern, Thomas <user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid>
wrote:

Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds"
http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm  ?

/Thomas Kern
/XXX-XXX-XXXX (O)
/XXX-XXX-XXXX (M)

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid

Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?

I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my
insanity

We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display

So some sort of traffic light logo with

X imposed on the red light - we don't want that

Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber

And MON with the O as the green light.

Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual
look.

Right I'll crawl back under my stone now

Andrew Jackson
UNIX Systems Administrator
Server & Storage Services, Ordnance Survey
Room C633, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU
Phone: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX | Fax: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX

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