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Roadmap/GitHub?/IPv6

list Japheth Cleaver
Fri, 8 Mar 2019 06:46:52 -0800
Message-Id: <user-7b4caec81c28@xymon.invalid>

I think a larger discussion on Xymon's roadmap in terms of Docker and container analysis is definitely something warranted. A host-based approach tends to invite individualized responses to coordination among varying levels of architecture (including both host -> hypervisor, baremetal (eg, DRAC) -> host, and hypervisor "status" reporting), but containers' typically ephemeral nature could merit a distinct reference point -- or not, if it's desired to have them persistently reportable. Host-Svc may or may not make sense there.

I tend to agree that a move to Github may be helpful here at this point - athough with the various community issues people have had with GH since MS's purchase, it seems there has been a bit of an outcry, I'm not sure there's much SF will end up being able to capitalize on. It would certainly make PR's easier to coordinate and invite more interaction.

The largest stalling point on the roadmap here was indeed the IPv6 transition. I think things are releasable in an Alpha state, and that was the intent at the last release, but it's been difficult to find any site using IPv6 at sufficient scale who could help with the testing process. That's a bit of a Catch-22 though, and perhaps it would be best to release an easy reference point for future testing and go from there - along with the various other patches that I've received. (And this does raise the question of what the next highest priorities out there will be.)

Regards,
-jc


On 3/8/2019 4:39 AM, James Louis wrote:
Hello All,

I agree with SebA on this issue. I count on Xymon and it has proven itself many times over. But there needs to be seen a roadmap. I get comments about Xymon being so 80's but I answer back with how Xymon gets the job done. But we are in seriously changing times with so much being done in the virtual, containerized and micro-kernel areas. There is an array of "cloud" hosting options. Maybe a discussion is needed on what Xymon will do and will not do in the future.


On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 6:11 AM SebA <user-4631430d620a@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-4631430d620a@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

    The lack of releases (and commits - there are commits after the
    last release, but only 2) on the *nix side is concerning.  IPv6
    support may have been something that people thought would be
    needed, and then wasn't so much in demand, but I think that demand
    would be there if Xymon had good support for Docker container
    monitoring.  With the increasing use of Docker, Xymon needs to be
    able monitor Docker containers or it will die a slow death (and it
    may already be too late).

    Many years ago, I pushed for Xymon to be moved from VCS to SVN to
    promote community contributions.  Git, specifically GitHub, has
    replaced SVN as the best thing to promote community contributions,
    and I think it would be beneficial if the official Xymon code
    repos are migrated to GitHub.  (There is an unofficial sync
    project to sync a lot of SVN projects to GitHub but the project
    has recently closed: https://github.com/svn2github/xymon)

    Kind regards,

    SebA


    On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 12:02, Felipe Ribeiro <user-675193762e07@xymon.invalid
    <mailto:user-675193762e07@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

        The last update that I could find is the 4.3.28 dated on
        2017-01-18 since them I don’t see any other update even
        alpha/beta.

        Att,

        *De:* Richard L. Hamilton <user-af55987f6d56@xymon.invalid
        *Enviada em:* quinta-feira, 7 de março de 2019 17:54
        *Para:* Felipe Ribeiro <user-675193762e07@xymon.invalid
        *Cc:* Ian Diddams via Xymon <xymon at xymon.com
        <mailto:xymon at xymon.com>>
        *Assunto:* Re: [Xymon] Is the xymon Dead? Future

        You can see updates being checked in at the sourceforge
        repository, so it's not dead. Someone doing the work will have
        to tell you what features may be added.  IPv6 support has been
        one of those, but I don't know how much progress has been made.


            On Mar 7, 2019, at 13:13, Felipe Ribeiro
            <user-675193762e07@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-675193762e07@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

            Hello,

            I'm working on a company that uses xymon for almost the
            beggining.

            We enjoy the view that xymon can provid us, using html
            plugin, we could make some very good sensors.

            But, we are afraid mainly cause the last update whore on
            2017, and we don’t know for how long it will be compatible
            with clients.

            So, my questions are, what's next? There’s something going
            on with the project? It'll someday gain an MYSQL historic ?

            Or, even there's some monitoring system that you are
            looking at with the same organized visual aspect (Page ->
            Group -> Host -> Plugin) ?