Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:04:26 +0200
From: user-1689acfc5a3b@xymon.invalid
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Wanna show off.
Hi Guys
I do realize that we need to provide business
with solutions instead of preffered software. We are a small
organization
growing fast. So currently I am monitoring 15 servers with Xymon. I
have been
able to customize xymon to show me SQL user connections, SQL
transactions per
second and all the other good stuff. However the new HOD has decided
that open
source is rubbish. He hates it and does not want any open source
products on
the site. I have approached my CTO about this as it seems we are being
forced
to use solutions that this guy has some experience with. IMHO use the
best tool
for the job. Xymon is perfect when I started here there was no
monitoring in
place. With Xymon's help I took a severely unstable SQL environment to
something that actually runs smoothly.
Anyway once again thanks for the input. I
just needed to show my CTO that this is not just some small time
mickey mouse
monitoring system.
Regards
Neil
From:
user-762f8f482193@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-762f8f482193@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 01 July 2009 01:44 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Wanna show
off.
Do you mean certain functions, or certain hosts. Either
way, we do both and the authentication is done to the AD domain so you
use your
normal passwords and userid's.
David Peters
+61 2 63913565
+61 4 17863572
From:
Denis
To:
user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Date:
01/07/2009 12:37 AM
Subject:
Re: [hobbit] Wanna show off.
I totally agree and have an example : the company where i work.
We monitor 4 datacenters with it and it work great.
Sadly, hobbit hasn't the possibility to create profiles and granty
access to
only some parts of the web console.
So we are thinking to move on another product, preferably in a model
between
entreprise and community product.
i'm sad we can't wait the new releases of xymon coming... but we need
to admit
that hobbit, however good it is, has not thoses functionalities yet
Reagds,
Denis
Everett, Vernon
wrote:
Unfortunately, I agree with Buchan
on this.
You need to remember, the purpose of IT is to
provide solutions, not run preferred software.
And this cuts both ways.
You can't run Hobbit just because you like it.
But by the same token, your PHB can't run his
commercial stuff, just because he likes it.
It needs to provide a solution to a business need.
One of the things you might find yourself up
against, is that Hobbit doesn't have "Golf days" with free booze, and
fancy cocktail parties and product launches with open bar tabs,
goodie-bags and
other junkets that the big vendors can provide.
And, for the morally elastic PHB, this is the
clincher, not the quality of the solution.
Good luck.
Regards
V
-----Original Message-----
From: Buchan Milne [mailto:user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 5:12 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Cc: Neil Franken
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Wanna show off.
On Monday 29 June 2009 08:32:00 Neil Franken
wrote:
Where can I find the Hobbit User list? Our company
is being monitored
by Xymon but we have a new manager here that
suffers from MS mania.
He now wants to spend a couple of thousand dollars
on a new monitoring system.
I am not going to back down without a fight so if
I can show him this
list maybe he will realize the error of his ways.
From a business perspective, there may not be an
error in his ways.
Frankly, a business needs to ensure that their
requirements are met in a cost effective manner.
So, I would start out from the standpoint that
your monitoring tools may not necessarily satisfy the business
requirements,
and that you are happy to work with him to document the monitoring
requirements. Once they are documented, show that you can satisfy all
the
monitoring requirements with a lower cost, and no businessman will
decide
against you.
Don't fight, cooperate to show that you take the
business needs into account, and have actually satisfied them.
If there are any monitoring requirements you don't
meet yet ... identify them and let's see if we can provide options,
before you
have to report.
I can however note that at least two ISPs in South Africa run
Hobbit/Xymon (and Devmon). A recent sporting event in South Africa
used Hobbit for monitoring components of the network ...
I can give you some more examples off-list.
Regards,
Buchan
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