Sorry... I had to vent

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Vernon Everett
<user-b3f8dacb72c8@xymon.invalid> wrote:

About 2 years ago, somebody might recall the exact date, I do not, I grabbed
a single month's worth of mailing list, and examined every posting.
From them, I extracted and distilled each question and useful answer into a
Q&A document. Something along the lines of a FAQ.
I posted it on the list, and invited others to grab a month and do likewise.
I was overwhelmed with apathy. :-(
On a positive note, TJ added my Q&As to the Wiki. (Thanks TJ)
See here
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Other_Docs/FAQ
I think I was responsible for some of these. TJ - can you remember?

Yes I remember doing the media wiki conversion work.
I thank you doing the  leg work on collecting the FAQ text.

My most (in)famous one being the one about "when is the next version due"
That certainly set the cat amongst the pigeons. :-)

You don't need to be a Jedi Master level to distil posts into basic Q&As.
Anybody can do it. Even me.
Grab a month, announce it, and let rip.
I will make it easy.
Add your name to a month below and repost (to prevent duplicate effort), and
just do it.

02/2010 -
01/2010 -
12/2009 -
11/2009 -
10/2009 -
09/2009 -
08/2009 -
07/2009 -
06/2009 -
05/2009 -
04/2009 -
03/2009 -
02/2009 -
01/2009 -
And there are more. Don't be shy. :-)

Vernon,  put my name onto ONE of the month above and I will do the FAQ
collecting work.

tj

Cheers
     V


On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Jerald Sheets <user-96a6f34c5806@xymon.invalid> wrote:

I think Damien makes a good point.  It appears, from his message, that he
doesn't even know about the wiki.

Yes, there's a wiki.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit

It's been my answer a number of times to very simple questions.  It
contains many of the things you need to get a basic install up and running
and even contains some tutorials at writing your own checks in the NCV/RRD
piece.

And Damien, even though you're not an "English natural speecher", your
questions always show that you have at least made an effort to look around
first.  Now you have a wiki to add to your list of things!

Damien is a regular, contributing member of this mailing list, and  I
think gets precisely what I'm talking about.  He goes out, looks, reads, and
offers the knowledge he has already found then asks his question in light of
what he's already learned on his own.  That is *NOT* what I'm talking about.


I think this has been a good discussion all around.  I went back and
looked at the histories of several regular members here, and everyone is
quite a good citizen.  We seem to have some pop in from time to time and ask
a question that clearly betrays they didn't so much as look at anything and
just want to be spoon fed the answers every step of the way.  That's what I
was talking about last night.

In ANY event, let's keep this puppy rolling.  I don't think there's
anything out there better than Xymon.  Let's all keep working to make it
even better every single day.


--j


On Mar 24, 2010, at 4:37 AM, user-d54077869176@xymon.invalid wrote:

Hi all,

I agree with Jerald, but I'd like to moderate his speechs. On my side, I
sometime asked dummy questions, because I didn't know where to find the
answers.
Mailing list archive, Xymon UI help, man pages, FAQ & Tips on xymon
homepage... Many sources of informations.

And as Maik said, we all are not english natural speechers. On my side,
I
don't have to much difficulties to understand, but it's not always true.
So, I think 2 things can be done :
-Having a central information source, and several language in it.


In order to centralize informations I think a wiki should be a good
approach. We could paste all informations from UI help, manpages, and
FAQ &
Tips, then actualise them.


I don't have much free time, but I can spend some hours to translate all
informations in french. I could be usefull to have german, and some
asian
language (japanese, chinese...). As I don't know any word of theses
languages, I can't do it myself.

Regards,
Damien

-- 
T.J. Yang