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Thought Process for Xymon Page Layout - Sanity Check

list Ralph Mitchell
Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:02:18 -0400
Message-Id: <CAAEjoCV0uvHEj8dSV3-XPP8D1fRL+pVaWN61dm7ndv=user-bd1a91a4b104@xymon.invalid>

Sigh - and copy my reply to the list as well.

Ralph Mitchell


On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Ralph Mitchell <user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I have the same thing going on with 4.3.6.  Try just commenting hosts
out in the generated ghost-list.  The script greps in the file for
each ghost it finds, and doesn't distinguish between active entries
and those commented out.

It seems like xymon may be remembering ghost clients even after they
get a regular hosts file entry and start showing up elsewhere.  I
should probably use xymon's hostgrep to see if the ghost appears
elsewhere.

Ralph Mitchell


On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Martin Flemming
<user-f286aaa49a76@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Hi and once again !

The script ist working perfectly,
but i've got the issue

if i removed one host from the new gernerated ghost-list to
a "offical" server-page, this host appears  after running the script again
in the gernerated ghost-list :-(

After restart of xymond, the host doesn't appear again of course,
but i don't want restart xymond everytime, if a new ghosthost arrives ....

.. or is this the only possiblity ?

.. a kill -SIGHUP (xymond-pid) didn't work ...

.. i work with xymond 4.3.7


cheers,
       martin


On Sun, 15 Apr 2012, Martin Flemming wrote:
Yes, thanks a lot !

And Xymonton is the right place :-)


Thanks & Cheers

       martin

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Ralph Mitchell wrote:
I don't know if the script attachment made it through or not, but I've
just added it to Xymonton anyway:

   http://xymonton.org/addons:unconfigured_clients

Ralph Mitchell


On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:48 AM, Martin Flemming
<user-f286aaa49a76@xymon.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Ralph Mitchell wrote:
As for ghost entries, I have a script that converts the ghost list
into an "Unconfigured Client" page so that any new system shows up
there within about 10 minutes of first checking in.

Hi, Ralph !

Thats sounds cool, is it possible to share this script ?

thanks & cheers

       martin

Ralph Mitchell


On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Steve Holmes <user-ec1bf77b1b44@xymon.invalid>
wrote:

Don,
We have wrestled with the same issues. We started with systems
organized
by
OS (Unix/Windows) and then as more apps became multi-platform have
moved
away from the platform centric organization, with some exceptions. The
reason for the change is so we can see at a glance when there is a
problem
in a service we support so when there is a problem the customers for
that
service can be notified, unless the problem is fixed before the
customers
have to be notified (which is the big payoff with using Xymon).

Our main page contains 3 groups:

   Services
   Platform Support
   Infrastructure

Under Services there are sub pages:
Production
Non-Production
Pre-production
Decommissioned

Under Platform Support there is currently only:
Platform Windows Servers

Under Infrastructure:

Authentication
Network
Server Provisioning


Prod and non-prod each have a list of application/service areas as sub
pages, each of which is a list of hosts in logical groups with no
respect
for OS platform. Within the groups the hosts are listed in alpha
order.

Pre-production contains hosts which are not in production yet, but
will
be
heading there (with some arm twisting at times). The reason for this
is
the
OPS center only calls support for alerts that show up on a production
page.
Hosts in pre-prod (as well as non-prod) can fail without causing a
call.

Decommissioned is where we put host entries for hosts that are just
that.
We
keep them there for a year after they've gone off line in case someone
wants
to see the history. They all have noconn and all the NOPROPS so they
don't
show up anywhere else.

The Infrastructure group is also production, but not application
specific.
This is an area currently under development so it is incomplete. There
we
have network devices, DNS servers, and the like.

Platform Support was a special request from the Windows admins to
group
all
of the windows servers in one place (with duplicate entries) so they
don't
have to look through all of the application pages to find their
servers.
The
Platform Windows Servers sub page contains sub pages for Prod and
Non-Prod,
each of which is grouped by application area. Yes, this duplicates the
work
I have to do when Windows systems are added, but they know that if
they
don't tell me exactly where to put the duplicate entry it won't go in.
We
could also put a page in there for Linux/Solaris admins, but that
hasn't
been requested, yet.

Many times when a new server shows up in the ghost report I have to
ask
the
admins for information about where it should go. Our naming convention
helps, but not totally.

Side note: OPS likes to watch the all-non-green page. But that
contains
non-green tests for non-prod as well as prod. I would really like to
be
able
to provide them with an all-non-green-prod-only (for lack of better
terminology) so they could easily see what they need to. Putting
NOPROPS
on
all non-prod would prevent the admins from being able to use the same
page
to watch everything. Something I'm not willing to do.

HTH
Steve


On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Don Kuhlman <user-5eb2bfadc6c6@xymon.invalid>
wrote:

Hi folks. I have been modifying our xymon server host cfg file
setups.
 I
have been moving page layouts around.  I thought I would send a note
to
the
list to see what others are doing in their web page layouts just to
have
a
sanity check…

Do you set up your main page to list things by OS, then by
environment –
like this:
Unix -  then Prod, Dev, Test, Uat, etc.
Windows – then Prod, Dev, Test, Uat, etc.

Do you also use Application groups and then arrange them by OS and
environment ?
App1, Unix, Prod
App1, Unix, Dev

Or

App1, Prod
App1, Dev

Here's what I've been doing and I'm having second thoughts about the
logic
of doing it this way:

Main xymon page lists the following Pages

Server lists by hostname Applications Infrastructure Other Systems

Under Server lists by hostname – I have now made up UNIX-MAC and
WINDOWS
Under each of these I have PROD and DEV

Under the Applications I have several business Applications -
App1
App2
App3

In each of the App1, App2, App3, I have Prod and Dev subpages

I'm creating include files for each category – like
HostsApp1Prod.cfg,
HostsApp1Dev.cfg, HostsApp2Prod.cfg, HostsApp2Dev.cfg, etc.
Now that I've changed it, I will probably need to create new
HostsApp1ProdUnixMac.cfg, HostsApp1ProdWindows.cfg

I would like to be able to setup base rules for monitoring the Prod &
Dev
systems – Prod disk, mem, cpu is different than Dev disk, mem, cpu,
etc.
 That's why I thought breaking out by OS and then environment would
make
sense.

Then I want to create very specific service, process, or other
monitoring
for the application servers.

Does this seem like a good way to go, or am I making it too
complicated
by
breaking everything down this way?


Thanks

Don K

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